Most anti-prostitution laws...

[JStar]

...are not just dumb but in some cases clear violations of human rights, such as freedom or travel, freedom of unionising and so forth.

Laws are supposed to help people in misery, not make their lives more miserable.

/J

[DV8]

Would you like to list some of these laws?

[BreakNorth]

Are you talking about the laws legalizing prostitution or the laws prohibiting prostitution?

[DV8]

But isnt the problem cuz these kids dont pay tax? [I mean 4get morals & religion.]

[BreakNorth]

Prostitution is legal in Nevada (except for Las Vegas, Reno, Carson City and Lake Tahoe), Canada, almost all of Europe, most of Latin America, Israel, Australia, Iran (it is known as mutïa there) and many other countries in Asia.

[JStar]

Originally posted by DV8
Would you like to list some of these laws?
Well how about if we start with the fact that prostitution is outlawed in many places. Prostitutes are often in much need from society and the authorities. They need protection from abusive people such as pimps and bad clients. But instead of helping them, the laws make them criminals and thus effectively shuts down the entire social security grid for those that need it the most. That is not only dumb but those that pay for this are the prostitutes... sometimes with their lives.

/J

[FTale]

In Finland pimping is illegal, but prostitution isn't. So if a woman or a man wants to earn money by having sex, she/he can do it, as long as she/he pays taxes. I don't think they have own labour union though...

There was a suggestion that a goverment financed and maintained bordello should be founded in Helsinki, but it got overrun...K-Lib could provide official information about this...

[RayH]

The idea of the "Happy Hooker" is a bunch of nonsense. Even in the Nevada legal brothels, the conditions are such as to make it nearly impossible for the women to keep any decent money.

A lot of the laws regarding prostitution are health based to stop the spread of STD, sexually transmitted diseases.

[JStar]

Originally posted by RayH
The idea of the "Happy Hooker" is a bunch of nonsense.
The notion that some people use the "Happy hooker" in debates is the real myth. Noone does that. No human being with an IQ over room temp (and I'm talking centigrade here) would ever be so stupid as to claim that each and every sexworker is a happy person. Pulling the "Aw don't give me that Happy Hooker nonsense"-routine is a moot point. It's a cheap shot... an universal argument to throw into the debate whenever it's not going your way.

/J

[RayH]

The Happy Hooker argument is there is an implication that the so called sex workers want to do such. I point that legal brothels have rules that entrap the women in a life of essential slavery, except it looks clean.

NBC Dateline did a story of different types of prostitutes. One segment featured some women in Nevada. One of the younger ones gave the usual, "I'm just trying to get some money and can make a lot of it" routine. Look in her eyes. She's a drug addict.

[JStar]

Originally posted by RayH
The Happy Hooker argument is there is an implication that the so called sex workers want to do such. I point that legal brothels have rules that entrap the women in a life of essential slavery, except it looks clean.

NBC Dateline did a story of different types of prostitutes. One segment featured some women in Nevada. One of the younger ones gave the usual, "I'm just trying to get some money and can make a lot of it" routine. Look in her eyes. She's a drug addict.
The tale of the unhappy hooker is as much a myth as the one about the happy hooker. The only difference is that the first of these two myths is accepted and about as PC as it can get.

However, the subject at hand was dumb laws. And anti-prostitution laws fit perfectly into that category because they worsen the situation for those that are already in a bad social situation. That noone can disagree with.

/J

[Phreakmeister]

Prostitution. What is the first word that comes to mind? Whore, trash, promiscuous? My objective is to show that not all prostitutes should be viewed this way. Some women are just trying to support their families, and some young girls don't know any better than to prostitute themselves. Granted there are some women who are prostituting for drugs, but not all women are like this. It is unfair to stereotype people just because they have the same job. You wouldn't assume that all Ford assembly plant workers have the same personality, so why is it fair to stereotype all prostitutes. Throughout this entry I will explain why some prostitutes don't deserve to be judged so negatively.

Some prostitutes are working to provide for their children. Some women would rather make their money prostituting so their children could live in better neighborhoods and go to better schools, rather than work three jobs, and live in a crime ridden area with poor schooling. They believe they are making the right decisions to benefit their children. These women do not want their children working in the same industry they are, and therefore they believe that by putting their children in good schools it will allow them to have more opportunities in the future. What is sad is that some of these women are losing their children to social services because they are being deemed "unfit mothers." "The tragic irony here is that some women move into prostitution from the system of local authority care due to economic need." Some women believe that their children's future is more important than theirs, and I do not believe you can think negatively about a person who believes this way.

Some women have no other choice economically, but to become a prostitute. There has been a "global increase in the feminization of poverty: an increase in young women and men working as prostitutes often in exchange for bed or food." This shows the extreme that some people are facing today. How can you look at someone negatively for being a prostitute when for all you know they are just trying to make a buck so they can pay the rent this month. "Some young people began working as prostitutes leaving local authority care due to problems related to economic need and lack of employment." There are not as many jobs available to people who do not have post secondary education, and therefore it is very hard for a woman with little experience to find a job. This could be one of the reasons a woman turns to prostitution. It is unfair to judge a person about becoming a prostitute, because you do not know the route that they have to travel to lead to where they are today.

Not all prostitutes deserve the negative connotations they receive because different women got into the industry for different reasons. Some "women and young people are coerced into prostitution through relationships with men and sometimes women" they know. This shows that not all women chose this lifestyle, and therefore they do not deserve to receive all the negative attention that society directs toward prostitutes. Also some people have been sexually abused which lowers their self esteem, and makes them more likely to become prostitutes. " A young man who had suffered sexual assault compulsively returned to the scene of the assault and began working as a prostitute until he was able to unburden himself . . . and recover his self-esteem, confidence and ability to distinguish his own sexual needs." This young man was confused about his self worth, and decided that since he was going to have sex any ways he might as well get paid for doing it. You cannot blame this person ! for making that choice because his confidence is so low he does not know any better. Not all people chose to become prostitutes, some are forced or convinced that they should do it, and therefore they do not deserve the negative attention that prostitutes get.

[JStar]

What's the origin of this quote?

/J

[Phreakmeister]

http://www.wlu.ca/~wwwws/faculty/mtoye/100b/classbook/muscat.htm

Kitchener-Waterloo Resources of the Faculty of Women's studies at Wilfrid Laurier University, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.

[Freedom]

You can make all the laws against it but you will never stop it.

It is said to be the oldest proffession. Hmmm? wonder why.

People need to quit worrying about what other people do or consent to do to each other, even if one party pays the other.

All thes laws do is clog up the courts and take taxpayer money. If you screw around and get a disease it's your own dumb fault. Do as you will but don't expect anyone else to bail you out.

Our laws should reflect our actions as those are our true way to speak our desires. If millions want to pay for sex (something that is a natural desire for the human animal) who is anyone to say "no you can't do that".

Funny how someone could go have sex with 1000 different people if they wanted to for free, yet decide to pay for it and its wrong.

We have so many double standards in our laws its rediculous.

Freedom

[AWPrime]

The Netherlands have a prostitute labour union.