Failed suicide

[Phreakmeister]

In the 1800's anyone in England who unsucessfully attempted suicide faced the death penalty.

Who the f*** came up with that law??????????????????????????????????????

"I'm sorry sir, you failed to die, so you're gonna have to die"

[This message has been edited by Phreakmeister (edited January 19, 2002).]

[Idnew]

We've had that law before, but I think it was for someplace else. Pretty darn stupid isn't it.

We can do without the foul language as you can tell btw.

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Originally posted by Phreakmeister:
Who the f*** came up with that law??????????????????????????????????????

"I'm sorry sir, you failed to die, so you're gonna have to die"

[This message has been edited by Phreakmeister (edited January 19, 2002).]

lmao that's one most silly law I ever heard, jesus yet again, people are what wrong with this world lol.

Suicide was considered very disrepectful in England up until the last few decades, for various reasons. When religious was foremost in the political and legal world, the reasons that murder etc were illegal were as much because of the unjustified destruction of God's image etc etc which applied equally to yourself.
Secondly, in a culture of "stiff upper lip" it was considered very un-gentlemanly if you could not deal with your problems in a respectable manner rather than admitting defeat and topping yourself. Particular if you leave relatives and dependants behind, it was seen as the lowest of the low methods to get out of your problems.
I don't personally agree with the law, in the same way that I think euthanasia *could* be made legal if things are thought over completely first. But I can understand the law.
Btw, in case anybody is too stupid to work this out, the law isn't against failed suicides, and so isn't a punishment for failing. It is a law against suicide in general. Obviously, if you don't fail, then there's not really any point hanging someone, so it only applies when the suicide fails...

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by dom:
Btw, in case anybody is too stupid to work this out, the law isn't against failed suicides, and so isn't a punishment for failing. It is a law against suicide in general. Obviously, if you don't fail, then there's not really any point hanging someone, so it only applies when the suicide fails...

Actually it is. Because it doesn't put the death penalty on suicide, it puts the death penalty on failed suicides.
And this way, according to this law, when you fail to die, you're gonna have to die. It's as simple as that.

I know about the stiff-upper-lip thing, but does that make the law any more relevant?

Phreakmeister, use your brain!
The penalty is intended to be a deterrant from suicide, it is NOT for failing. Of course, it can only be *applied* when the suicide has failed. You could hardly have a death penalty imposed on somebody who has succeeded in committing suicide.
Think about it...

[Phreakmeister]

Why don't you use yours?
Ever heard of convictions without the defendant at the trial? I don't know the English word for that, the Dutch term is "bij verstek veroordelen". (Maybe the Dutchies in here could help me translate)

Let me repeat my question:
Does the stiff-upper-lip thing make the law any more relevant????????

I'd tend to think that suiciders would look upon the law as a safety net. No matter what, they will "get to" die.

Hell... in the USA if you fail they force you to live AND go into psychotherapy.

Then again... we can get guns here so it's easier to succeed...

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister:
Ever heard of convictions without the defendant at the trial? I don't know the English word for that [...]

I think it's called being tried in absentia, a Latin term. Unless any lawyer knows better?

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