Should homosexual activity be illegal?

[kontulib]

Well?

[Idnew]

Do you realize the jails that would have to be built if it was?

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by Idnew
Do you realize the jails that would have to be built if it was? And they'd all have to be one man to a cell... :lol

[DustyBottoms]

Originally posted by Serendipity
And they'd all have to be one man to a cell... :lol

LOL! :clap :lol

[MacReady]

No, I dont see the point. I know a guy who is gay living with boyfriend. He doesnt do anything sexually or flirt at me cuz he knows I am not gay and that I am only interest in girls. He and his boyfriend are nice and very mature. They keep their own private life to themselves and I dont pry in then point fingers at them in childish way, "omg omfg, hes gay!!" who cares. Usually I notice people, who have problem with people who are gay, are because of their own problems. Maybe they blame all gay because of one guy raped or molested him, then kept secret and discriminate against all gay or peer pressure or taught/brainwashed by parents or others.

[Sjax]

Originally posted by MacReady
I am only interest in girls.
Funny how you can make things look when you take them out of a context. Anyway, I agree 100% with you. As stated elsewhere a few of my friends are gay as well. Its not like they make passes on me all the time, and why should they. Neither do my female friends.

[Marc]

Why would it be illegal?

I mean....sexual orientation are noone of our business.....If someone is "gay" or "lesbiana".....it's their choice!

[AWPrime]

Who voted against lesbians?

[King Solomon]

Sometimes I feel like a Lesbian in a man's body :rolleyes: :lol

[kontulib]

Originally posted by Idnew
Do you realize the jails that would have to be built if it was?

Isn´t it actually illegal in some States. Sodomy laws?

[w1che]

Quote from AW... Who voted against lesbians
>>>>>>>
I did, I don't think two women should be messing around unless I'm with them... :lol :smash

[Sjax]

Originally posted by w1che
Quote from AW... Who voted against lesbians
>>>>>>>
I did, I don't think two women should be messing around unless I'm with them... :lol :smash
I agree. That is just waste of good material:clap :lol

[MacReady]

Originally posted by kontulib


Isn´t it actually illegal in some States. Sodomy laws?

I am not sure which states are illegal, I heard there some states have laws, not confirmed if true or which states. I wonder why people and laws care so much of men's bodies and their feelings toward to other men. I couldnt find reasons to care for. Are laws and anti-homosexuals that bitter, they really do care about men's bodies or feelings toward other men? Does gay men's anus and !%!%!%!%!% belongs to law and anti-homosexual? if no, why care so much about it? I would find it hard to believe if anti-homosexuals have wife or girlfriend, otherwise they wouldnt need to bring it up or having problem with their own bitterness about homosexuals.

[DustyBottoms]

It should not illegal but I vote for disgusting.

[MacReady]

Lol, I think it gross but I dont care cuz it their own body and mind to do whatever they wish. I just worry about mine :) If I see 600 pounds behemoth lady slobbing as french kissing with 90 pound skinny husband in park or somewhere, I would thought disgusting. I probably would take digital camera picturing them then post it on one of these gross and strange websites.
Most gay couples have plenty money, nice car, nice house, expensive clothes cuz they dont trust girls, dont want babies to pay for. They usually have clean home. I visited one of gay couple's house and they did good job with house inside plus kitchen stuff are high class. They dont need to worry about kids or wifes breaking or ruining their furnitures. Also no wifes to take care as wifes tend to run husbands dry on money. They usually split payments for just houses, car, bills. All I can say, it their own life and it just different, plain and simple. In San Fransico where many gays are, they can afford live there and San Fransico is one of most expensive city to buy houses. I am not talking about suburbans, I meant inside San Fransico, where astronomical heights are near downtown.
Probably only illegal reason for lawmakers or politicans on gay would be marriage that can pass cuz gay would have more money to take advantage of in taxes cuz they cant procreate children but can adopt. Law support marriages on husband and wife because USA want more more people, meaning more money. I guess they want to see everything in world consumed by billions more people and freeway or streets increasing congest everywhere as they think is beautiful or have no brains to see that. Also probably encouraging sewers overflow throughout states stinking up everywhere. These type of politicans should be illegal in our government not gay.

[w1che]

Yeah I know Gays ain't nothing but Saints.. Mac you need to work on that problem you have with women..

[DustyBottoms]

MacReady-Law support marriages on husband and wife because USA want more more people, meaning more money.

I take it that you are not yet familiar with the marriage penalty.

Bush is trying to end it to level the playing field.

Your favorite city (San Francisco) has again allowed the reopening of the bath houses where gays can meet and do their thing. The justification for this is that the new HIV drugs have slowed down the spread of AIDS. I have no problem with adults choosing their life-companions. I try real hard to be (somewhat) politically correct and sensitive to my fellow citizens situations. But indescrete first meeting male/male sex is damn dangerous. It is worse than a whorehouse. (They test and use condoms there - so I hear :) )

Nope. I have decided it is too hard to be politically correct on this issue.

BTW - My brother was diagnosed with leukemia 2 years after an operation for Hodgkin’s cancer. The doctors were very puzzled by his symptoms. His immune system was just shutting down. I now think he died from an AIDS infected blood transfusion he received on the operating table. That was back in 1983 before they tested for HIV.

I only bring this up to point out there are consequences for irresponsible behavior.

[MacReady]

No I havent heard of marriage penatly and had no idea of Bush is trying to end it to level the playing field. It doesnt surprise me cuz people are marrying for wrong reasons, then cost of all these divorces. I know a girl who had been my friend since high school but never got into relationship with her cuz she not my type. She married for 3 times, divorce 3 times. She already have 3 kids. Her first marriage begun in high school. Now she have a new boyfriend, and probably going get marry anytime soon. Doesnt surprise me, she just cannot stand without men. She doesnt work but depending on warefare for income, guys to spend money on her, have more kids so state will help her with money. Marriage penalty is fine with me, but need children penalty so people will stop breeding for wrong reasons. She had state help paying for divorces, HUD, children, etc. Image all cost of divorce, fight for custody of kids, cost of paying HUD for her because she single and doesnt work. That like 100,000 dollars just in few years and we pay taxes on people for their stupid mistakes. Now I lost respect for her, havent see her for long time.
AIDS, HIV, or other diseases, well too bad, they should have take precautions before sleeping with someone. At least, these diseases helped reduce populations in world. Without diseases, crime, cancers, accidents, natural disasters, war, etc, world population would be quadrupled or more. Then you will notice value of life are being corrupted as population increasing. Like cloning animals for food, destorying natural forest to replace genetic engineer trees & plants encouraging rapid growth for buildings, genetic multiplative using chemical or something on vegetables & fruits, also genetic multiplative on animals so they all grow faster, all reasons for to feed people. Natural life on Earth is being disrespected everyday by people, so why should I give more credits to people for their mistakes with aids, having too many babies, war, religious, etc? Therefore, all I can do is worry about myself and my family and avoid stupid mistakes that people tend to make. I notice these type of people cannot be taught, nothing will ever elevate their thinking until in the end or never will. To experience a future, image living on a tiny planet which is 250 miles in diameter, 3-4 billion people with brain of these Africans who living in desert but they have techology and medical like USA have. Afterwhile, they will worry about spaces and resources every during 10 years. Women do get diseases easily when they sleep with men who have it. I dont know if gay men get diseases easily than women, but women do get it really easy too. If you meant about using condoms, well some women like it in anal too, lol. BTW, I heard they are producing vaccine for hiv or aids, creating new medinces today, I predict in 10 years, there will be meidences to stop or prevent aids. Then people will have nothing to worry about and do nothing but breed. Even they didnt meant to, "Omg, now I am a parent! opps" Unless nice of mothernature creating a new deadly virus ever. I dont know if AIDS came from nature or man made, I always been wondering about that one. Most virus are nature made. When there many deer multiplying in area where hunting are illegal, deer start dying from diseases. People multiplying all over, newer diseases everyday, go figure.
Can you provide me a link about Bush trying to end playing field of marriages? I curious to know if its in process and who people are against it. thanks

[AWPrime]

There is nothing wrong with two chicks getting it on.

If a nice babe is not doing any guy but me, I have no objections.

[DustyBottoms]

MacReady <lots of text>

Shucks Mac! I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying.

You asked for a link about the marriage penalty. I goggled it and here is the first of 36,800 links.
http://www.concordcoalition.org/federal_budget/marriagepenalty.html

Illicit "one night stand relationships are wrong no matter if male or female and or the sexual orientation. - I agree. I do point out however that the predominate cause of AIDS is the "casual" gay male lifestyle. I find no justification for ether sex to “do it” ‘cause it feels good and move on to the next partner.

Genitic manipulation and cloning is a new science and needs to be closely monitored and controlled. - I agree

Our main disagreement seems to be your assumption that the USA wants more people to get more money. I do not think that is true. Our constitution was designed around "freedom". Freedom of religion - freedom of speech - etc. We tried to set up a system where immigrants to the United States would be welcomed and have the opportunity to live without being persecuted. As it turned out we made some big mistakes when setting up the rules. The good news is that we are correcting the mistakes. Slavery and absence of woman’s rights were a couple of big screw-ups. The good news is that we have now fixed them. Remember that we are still a baby in "country terms". Euros' have buildings and castles and highways much older than the USA. If something here is over 50 years old is is dated and needs to be replaced.

More people = more money does not compute. If that were true then China would rule the world.

As for the deer, I am 100% in favor of proper "game management". It is no fun watching a herd of starving deer in the news.

No – you and I are not that far apart.

There is a saying: If you are under 30 and not a liberal – “you have no heart”
If you are over 30 and are not a conservative – “you have no brain”

(or something like that)

:appropriate icon

[AWPrime]

Originally posted by DustyBottoms

Illicit "one night stand relationships are wrong no matter if male or female and or the sexual orientation. - I agree.


Me too.

[Mary]

I don´t :smash :o

[Dizbuster]

Illicit "one night stand relationships are wrong no matter if male or female and or the sexual orientation. - I agree. I do point out however that the predominate cause of AIDS is the "casual" gay male lifestyle. I find no justification for ether sex to “do it” ‘cause it feels good and move on to the next partner.

Yeah, and I am sure all those "gay" africans are regretting it about now.

Talk about perpetuating the stereotype!

Guess what, the safest relationship with the lowest incidence of HIV happens to be a homosexual one, between lesibians, who have not had relations with men at all.

So HIV/AIDS comes down to being the fault of men, gay or otherwise, so why not just start a mass castration program, to 'nip it in the bud' so to speak, and stop the spread!

Sounds good to me!:clap :lol :wink :rolleyes:

[w1che]

Quote from Dustbuster.. Guess what, the safest relationship with the lowest incidence of HIV happens to be a homosexual one, between lesibians, who have not had relations with men at all.
>>>>>>>.
Duz.. You need to rethink that propo your putting out here.. Any relationship is safe if both partners are clean. The problem comes in when you have many partners as many gays and heterosexuals do. AIDS started in the gay community, in that there is no debate.. Why? as a group (and I say as a group) gays have many more sexual partners than heterosexuals do. The problem came into the Heterosexual community through Switchers, dirty needles, prostitution and in rare cases blood transfusions. Then of course it spread out from there. AIDS is worse in some other parts of the world because they have refused to use safe sex devises as most tend to do in this country..

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by w1che
Then of course it spread out from there. AIDS is worse in some other parts of the world because they have refused to use safe sex devises as most tend to do in this country..

AIDS and antiretroviral drugs in sub-Saharan Africa (http://www.avert.org/aidsdrugsafrica2.htm)

Presbyterian Church against using condoms (http://allafrica.com/stories/200206190069.html)

There's plenty more, Wunch. In Africa, if you have AIDS then everything is stacked against you.

[w1che]

Quote from Dip...In Africa, if you have AIDS then everything is stacked against you.
>>>>>>>>

You have that right. I have no idea what the answer is. If you can't get them to use protection or the dream world answer ( not to have sex) I have no idea where it's going from here..

[AWPrime]

Blame the pope!

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by AWPrime
Blame the pope! Well, I think that would be taking it a bit far, but certainly the position of the Catholic Church on condoms does little to help. Far better to deal with the real world.

[Dizbuster]

Originally posted by w1che
Quote from Dustbuster.. Guess what, the safest relationship with the lowest incidence of HIV happens to be a homosexual one, between lesibians, who have not had relations with men at all.
>>>>>>>.
Duz.. You need to rethink that propo your putting out here.. Any relationship is safe if both partners are clean.


The fact is, the girls can have as many different partners as they want, the likely hood, even if they are with an infected partner, and as long as it is another woman, is that HIV will not be transmitted.

Lesbianism, the ultimate in safe sex!

And the pope should check his own skirts, before he condemns someone elses lifestyle.

How can thee remove a mote from thine neighbors eye, when thou hast an alter boy in thine own?

Or something along those lines:p :wink :eek:

And, you know the leading theory of how HIV was transmitted from SIV, to humans? Some GUY having sex in the woods with an ape. :confused :o

So, the real reason there is HIV, is because all guys or just horndogs. So to prevent further tragedy, like I said, off with their heads! (the other one that is:p :smash )

[w1che]

Quote from Duz.. The fact is, the girls can have as many different partners as they want, the likely hood, even if they are with an infected partner, and as long as it is another woman, is that HIV will not be transmitted.
>>>>>>>>
I have to be careful here.. and if you have sores in your mouth while the other HIV lady has sores somewhere else from playing around with an infected guy?

I understand you can get HIV from an infected person with bleeding gums & a bite... That is more than likely how it got started.. A bite or scratch.. Mix those body fluids & in a few years your dead.. What a bad way to die..

[Serendipity]

Some of my former co-workers ran humantiarian projects in Romania. Under the Causescu regime, orphans were stigmatised (often because their parents had been disposed of by the state), and were regarded as real lowlife. They were generally put in state-run orphanages, sub-Dickensian in standard. At times of food shortages the orphanages would go without, leading to many malnourished children (and Im talking young children). This malnutrition in turn was treated by giving blood transfusions...


:mad :mad :mad :mad :mad

[King Solomon]

Originally posted by AWPrime
Blame the pope!

My answer to that would be If you no play'a the game, then you no make'a the rules. The Pope should stay out of the sex opinion business. That's like an unmarried priest trying to give marriage counseling to a married couple :lol

Originally posted by wunch
I have to be careful here...

I think you waltzed around that pretty good :wink

[kontulib]

Anybody of us, who are saying, at he/she is 100% heterosexual, is lying.

There is not 100% heterosexuality on the world :smash

[w1che]

Kon what the heck are you talking about? I don't know about you but I for one know what I like. I can't even think or picture me wanting to mess around with a hairy A** guy under any condition.. Whatever rings your bells man.. :eek:

[Dizbuster]

Originally posted by w1che
I can't even think or picture me wanting to mess around with a hairy A** guy


Oh, so if maybe he shaved you would be okay with it?:wink :p :smash :eek: :clap :wave :lol

[w1che]

:lol ... Naw Dustbuster... Lets just say when I fly a plane up, up and away waiting for that SLOW ride down. I want that beautiful plane to have ALL (and I do mean) ALL of the right equipment... OH YES I DO.. :lol

[Serendipity]

A-men! :lol

[DustyBottoms]

Originally posted by kontulib
Anybody of us, who are saying, at he/she is 100% heterosexual, is lying.

There is not 100% heterosexuality on the world :smash

I think your ether one or the other. Some claim to be both in a mad desire to be different. (I don't buy it)

[aclu14]

Imagine if it were an all homosexual world, and you were the one of the the few heterosexuals, and the government told you what you can and can not do with your genitalia -
How would you feel?

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by aclu14
Imagine if it were an all homosexual world, and you were the one of the the few heterosexuals, and the government told you what you can and can not do with your genitalia -
How would you feel? Aclu, I love you to bits but I have to pull that one down. If it were an all homosexual world, we wouldn't reproduce - there wouldn't be an "us"! (What I'm saying is that there's a solid reason why the status quo is there, and it has nothing to do with homophobia) Thankfully it's not an all homosexual world, however, but the gov't still tells us, indiscriminately, what we can and cannot do with our genitalia - a good job, too.

[AWPrime]

That was not Aclu's point.

Please rethink the issue.

If you need an excuse for the reproduction thing:
Cloning or Homo cell fusion (I don't know the exact name).

[kontulib]

Every heterosexual person haves some homosexual feelings too. They might be so small feelings at he/she don´t know about those feelings. But there is not 100% heterosexuality.

[w1che]

Kon why don't you post that ONE more time and maybe you will convince yourself... Let those feelings you have out man. What guy do you get THAT LOVING FEELING for?... :lol :smash

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by AWPrime
That was not Aclu's point.

Please rethink the issue.

If you need an excuse for the reproduction thing:
Cloning or Homo cell fusion (I don't know the exact name). AW, I know that Aclu's point was about discrimination, and what would happen if the roles were reversed. Her point is taken - indeed, there should be no need for me to say that.:) My point was that the hypothetical situation she used necessarily could not exist (for many reasons besides the mere practicalities of reproducing), and also that there are no laws that target homosexuals (i.e. that apply to homosexuals and not to other people). There are laws that target homosexual behaviour, as well as heterosexual behaviour. While laws addressing any kind of sexual behaviour could be seen as oppressive, these laws are here for good reason, and are generally not very oppressive in any case. Inequality of age limits is the main issue in the UK, and IIRC that's been levelled out now.

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by DustyBottoms
I think your ether one or the other. Some claim to be both in a mad desire to be different. (I don't buy it)

What's so impossible about being attracted to both sexes? What's so impossible about not wanting to restrict yourself to what someone looks like inside of the underwear?
Maybe you should try to envisage yourself into bisexuality before making bold statements about the sincerity of bisexuals, claiming that they are only bisexual "in a mad desire to be different". Who are you to judge their feelings and emotions? Their feelings are theirs, and only they are able to judge those feelings. Noone else.
I don't go around saying that you only love your wife's money, but hate herself, do I? I'm not in a position to judge your feelings towards your wife. And neither are you towards bisexuals.

[Dizbuster]

Originally posted by DustyBottoms


I think your ether one or the other. Some claim to be both in a mad desire to be different. (I don't buy it)


Wrong!

Sexuality, like gender, is not black and white, either/or, but a sliding scale, or continium. That is the point that Kon (as much I hate to agree with him or Phreak) is trying to make.

Most people do tend to identify stronger in one direction, though that is certainly not true for everyone. Just because you identify as hetero, that doesn't mean that, given the proper circumstances, you would not engage in homosexual activity. Kind of like so called "straight" guys in prison.

:p :wink :confused :rolleyes:

[AWPrime]

If want to prevent homosexualty activities people should first close all the single-gender schools.

[DustyBottoms]

Originally posted by Dizbuster



Wrong!

Sexuality, like gender, is not black and white, either/or, but a sliding scale, or continium. That is the point that Kon (as much I hate to agree with him or Phreak) is trying to make.

Most people do tend to identify stronger in one direction, though that is certainly not true for everyone. Just because you identify as hetero, that doesn't mean that, given the proper circumstances, you would not engage in homosexual activity. Kind of like so called "straight" guys in prison.

:p :wink :confused :rolleyes:

:lol

Maybe so -- I just remembered a saying I recently heard.

Nope - It is way too politically incorrect to tell.

[MacReady]

China is communism and they have law as one child per parents. America is capitalism and when more people there are, higher structure of business and politicans do get profits. Like pyrmaid schemes or MLM. China is starting to improve techology with Hong Kong becoming part of China now. They are going in space and become 3rd country to enter space with their own shuttle. Can you image if China become capitalism. Japan for example, their population is high for small island and they are one of richest country in world but highest suicide rate cuz of overwhelm working and study. Do you want to start school at age 3, study everyday until 18 or older thru many years of colleges, then work everyday. Wake up at 5, hurry eat breakfast then walk thru denisty traffic and walking people to work, then come home at 6, poop, eat dinner, then go sleep, then wake up again same hardship day over again and again. America is going become like Japan someday. More people would have boring life similar to that guy in "One Hour Photo" movie. Now more license requirement laws across states, dont be surprise that you would need license for every jobs there is someday. Maybe even license to be a gas man at station, license to be garbage man. All licenses require colleges. Why does Japaneses want bring other life to that world knowing their children will be overwhelm study, working, etc. I would rather have my children enjoy their own life without demands by others. Assitance suicide for example, Ashorf want to ban lethal injection to help people who are terminally illness to die. Their life are their own choice, but he own everyone's life? A control freak. That what scares me, I dont want bring children into world where government or politicans want to control over everyone's life choices. I would love to see deadly virus with no cure infecting these politicans which they will die with knowing in maybe 5 years thru pain and suffering making them screaming 24/7 until their heads become explosive wide open. Of course, I would need that on television showing everyone to make an example out of them. We dont need other person's opinion to decide or exploit on other person's life choices whether gay, terminally illness, etc. If they can, then America isnt a free country.

[Sephirstein]

It absolutely should not be. I think Texas Republicans should not be allowed to reproduce because they believe that it should. Stupid fascists.

[aclu14]

Hehe, I hear ya Seph.

[Idnew]

Originally posted by Sephirstein
It absolutely should not be. I think Texas Republicans should not be allowed to reproduce because they believe that it should. Stupid fascists.

Careful you two when you start stepping on my toes around here.:wink

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by Sephirstein
It absolutely should not be. I think Texas Republicans should not be allowed to reproduce because they believe that it should. Stupid fascists.

I think they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce for the simple reason that they're from Texas :wink



(Dead Zone, Idnew, don't worry, it was just a joke)

[kontulib]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister


I think they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce for the simple reason that they're from Texas :wink



(Dead Zone, Idnew, don't worry, it was just a joke)

You´re dead meat now, Phreak. It was nice to know you.

[sinecure]

Originally posted by Dizbuster



Wrong!

Sexuality, like gender, is not black and white, either/or, but a sliding scale, or continium.

If you buy that, I'll suggest that "humanity" is likewise not a fixed attribute. :p :wink

[AWPrime]

Your part right, being human doesn't give any person more or less worth.

[Ateo]

Horniness isn't soley about procreation.

Human horniness is about getting off, and there is more than one way to get off.

This is a reflection of the complexity of the human experience. That complexity is apparent in other areas as well, not just sex.

[bookworm17]

"If want to prevent homosexualty activities people should first close all the single-gender schools."

Just who do you think you are? Have you been to a single gender school? Do you even have a clue about them? I've been in all girls school since I was 8, and it hasn't had an adverse effect on mine, or anyone else I know's sexuality. Being at an all girls school doesn't mean you spend your entire life engaged in some sort of sex romp- its just like a mixed school, you do lessons, you have homework, you make friends. You don't develope homosexual tendencies.

Single gender schools are good- you get to meet loads of people and boys don't feature so much- when you go through year 7-9 you don't talk about guys so much and having the guys not around during lessons makes things easier.
:smash

[DustyBottoms]

Originally posted by tigsnort
Horniness isn't soley about procreation.

Human horniness is about getting off, and there is more than one way to get off.

This is a reflection of the complexity of the human experience. That complexity is apparent in other areas as well, not just sex.

Why did you have to bring up animal sex?:wink

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by DustyBottoms
Why did you have to bring up animal sex?:wink

What on earth made you think of animal sex??? You have a guilty conscience? Anything you wanna confess? :wink :p :lol :smash

[BeetleJuice]

Originally posted by Serendipity
AW, I know that Aclu's point was about discrimination, and what would happen if the roles were reversed. Her point is taken - indeed, there should be no need for me to say that.:) My point was that the hypothetical situation she used necessarily could not exist (for many reasons besides the mere practicalities of reproducing), and also that there are no laws that target homosexuals (i.e. that apply to homosexuals and not to other people). There are laws that target homosexual behaviour, as well as heterosexual behaviour. While laws addressing any kind of sexual behaviour could be seen as oppressive, these laws are here for good reason, and are generally not very oppressive in any case. Inequality of age limits is the main issue in the UK, and IIRC that's been levelled out now.

I would have to disagree with you on one point Dip.

The Texas law as well as that in 3 other states was applied to homosexuals period. The laws in the other ?9? states were directed at both hetero and homosexuals.

Of the 13 states with sodomy laws, four -- Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma and Missouri -- prohibit oral and anal sex between same-sex couples. The other nine ban consensual sodomy for everyone: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia.



Now if Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma and Missouri wasn't pointedly discriminatory towards homosexuals only Then I'm a Martian.

Also it should be known that while these laws were rarely enforced, they were the basis for gays losing their children during custody battles as well as the bigotry of people in the judicial system.

I know a man right now, a wonderful person, caring, giving and unpretentious and gay. Between his Ex wife, the judge and her lawyer he lost all rights except for every other weekend SUPERVISED visitation. And there were no overnight visits.
She did her BEST to smear this guy. It got VERY ugly and all because of the bigotry surrounding being gay.

I have a few more things to say but it may be in the thread in the other forum.

[Serendipity]

Hm. I was taking a conservative approach to the question, BJ (glad to see you're still around, btw :)). My (rather pedantic, in hindsight) point still stands, though - the Tx, etc., laws address homosexual behaviour, rather than make being a homosexual person a crime. Same-sex sodomy is homosexual behaviour. I'm sure, of course, that bigots still would hold intolerance even towards celibate homosexuals - as indeed has proven to be the case in a recent storm-in-a-teacup within the Church of England (http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200306/FOR20030617d.shtml). Who'd be a gay bishop?

[BeetleJuice]

What then, constitutes "Homosexual" behavior? Certainly you can't mean to say that Hetero Sexuals engage in Homosexual behavior do you? That would sorta blur the line between the terms Homo-Hetero Sexual.
Why is it then, that the Texas law only pointed out the activities betweem same sex couples rather than the sexul activities across all spectrums if it was only for Homosexual behavior?
How many Hetero Sexual couples were sent to prison (in Texas) for breaking Anti-Sodomy laws after they were redefined to read as they currently are/were?
I can't find a single case.