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kontulib
April 28th, 2003, 02:18 PM
This case happened here in Helsinki on February 1999. Read this text carefully and vote then, what punishment/sanction should be fair to her. Your opinion.



Sillanpää guilty of three counts of manslaughter


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Monday saw the resolution of one of the strangest cases in recent Finnish criminal history, as a court in Helsinki found 31-year-old Sanna Sillanpää guilty on three counts of manslaughter and a further two of attempted manslaughter, but waived sentence on the grounds that the accused was not mentally fit, based on psychiatric reports. Sillanpää, who is suffering from acute paranoid schizophrenia, will be placed in a mental hospital.
Sillanpää was initially charged with murder after she opened fire and killed three men at close quarters in an indoor firing range in downtown Helsinki last February. As she was leaving the firing range, she also attempted to shoot two other men who were present. Sillanpää escaped from the building where the shootings took place, but was later picked up by police - largely as the result of a fortunate series of coincidences - as she attempted to board a plane for London.
Not least because of the gender-factor involved (Finnish women do not make a habit of executing men with pistols), the case attracted a great deal of media attention. Ms Sillanpää compounded the mystery of what had caused her to shoot three apparent strangers on a whim, as she refused to speak a word to police or anyone else in the wake of the incident. Her only words at the original arraignment were a compulsory "Not guilty". It became obvious to investigators, however, that a mass of physical and other evidence pointed to Sillanpää's having committed the crime, though with clearly diminished responsibility.
The court also ordered compensation to be paid by Sillanpää in the sum of around FIM 900,000 (EUR 150,000), which is roughly equivalent to the property confiscated from her shortly after her arrest. The payments in damages were much reduced from those requested by the plaintiffs, and this gave their counsel an opportunity to complain that the sufferings of dependents who had lost a husband, father, or son were being undervalued. He noted that they were conspicuously smaller than the hefty sums paid out to Finnish Ski Federation officials after a libel case involving the Finnish News Agency earlier this year.


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DustyBottoms
April 29th, 2003, 03:07 AM
Crime and punishment! Whew!
A great topic!

I should start out with: I am against the death penalty (economically). At least it does not work well in the USA.

The death penalty is kept alive by the lawyers who stand to make mucho dolorinos with the appeals process, etc.

The costs to the taxpayer are too darn much! In the end only a limited percent of death penalty sentences are completed. Meanwhile the costs are astronomical for legal fees. The family of the victim has 15 years stolen from them with this issue continuously on their mind.

I know - It could be my son or daughter. BUT - knowing that SOB is a lifer would be OK with me. (This is the one requirement)

OK - back on thread topic - If you are mentally ill and take a life.

Should we trust the idiot physiologists to decide when a patient is eligible for release? This decision is left up to doctors in the USA. (Some exceptions) I think we need a review board of professionals and judges to decide when a patient has fully recovered.

i.e. Sexual preditors/pedofiles usually repeat their offence after being released. Is it worth it? I think not!

I vote for life in custody in a mental facility (within my above conditions)

kontulib
April 29th, 2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by DustyBottoms
This decision is left up to doctors in the USA.

Same here....

weldordave
April 30th, 2003, 07:52 AM
Give it up, Klib. We know there are no guns in Eurolandia. It has been extensively proven here that gun related homocides only occur in the US. Primarily LA.

AWPrime
May 1st, 2003, 04:58 AM
Institutional psychiatric treatment for life as an textbook example of a crazy person for med. students.

kontulib
May 1st, 2003, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by weldordave
Give it up, Klib. We know there are no guns in Eurolandia. It has been extensively proven here that gun related homocides only occur in the US. Primarily LA.

It was a shooting club Dave. :smash

King Solomon
May 1st, 2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by weldordave
...It has been extensively proven here that gun related homocides only occur in the US. Primarily LA.

Yaaassssiiry, Loooosiana (LA) particularly Nawlins, they's real crupt down there :rolleyes: :lol