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PlayCrackTheSky
May 31st, 2001, 02:18 PM
(this could get a little confusing)

For people who dont know Temperal mechanics is the whole theroy of time travel and the effects you can make on the time line if you do time travel. Now i was just wondering why you would be wiped of the face of the earth if you see your past self. If no one knows so be it if you do please explain it to me.

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May 31st, 2001, 02:40 PM
I thought, according to TimeCop, it would be if you came in physical contact with yourself from a different time since you should not be able to occupy the same space.
I don't remember exactly but they did a pretty fair job explaining it.
According to Star Trek, you can not only see yourself, but interact & have physical contact with yourself. It's only when you significantly alter the timeline that you get in trouble.

PlayCrackTheSky
May 31st, 2001, 02:42 PM
But according to Back to the futer if you see your self...poof your gone

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Kirk (regarding V'ger): "Bones, there's a thing out there…"
McCoy: "A thing? Why is something we don't understand always called a thing?"

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Idnew
May 31st, 2001, 02:53 PM
Moving to EE>>>>>>>>>

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Serendipity
May 31st, 2001, 04:17 PM
Hm. In order to travel in time, you'd need to be able to exceed the speed of light - impossible according to Einstein's theory of Special Relativity, and never mind what Kirk, Picard, et al have to say about it. It would also create an unacceptable imbalance in the total energy of the universe.

"Oh, but I'm just one tiddy person, surely in the whole wide universe there'd be room for more than one of me, even if only for a little while?"

Wrong. How much energy is there in the universe? Exactly NONE. If you remember the Big Bang, the entire universe was created out of (well, never mind, but not much stuff to begin with). The onlt way you could survive would be if half your body were made of matter, the other half, antimatter, and since the mixture wouldn't get on too well (i.e. your body would very quickly cancel itself out), this would be impossible. Besides, I dread to think what all the little neutrinos would get up to, zipping from your body in the past/future to the one in the present.

Ada_Doom
June 1st, 2001, 04:08 AM
Thank you Herr Professor Doktor Seren Dipity. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

The Harry Potter theory is that seeing yourself freaks you out and your instinct is too attack and kill your future/past self thereby destroying yourself.

How scientific.

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PlayCrackTheSky
June 1st, 2001, 03:10 PM
What if you and 10 of your friends are going some and 5 of them die. If you go back in time to save the people who died and where sucesfull wouldnt the fact that none your your friends died not make you want to go back in time and there for canceling out you going back in time in the first place? What if your past self died? Would that mean that you couldnt go back in time and you would die to? Or would you live because you where taken out of your time and that would mean that you couldnt die if your past self died? (does anyone else get that?)

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McCoy: "A thing? Why is something we don't understand always called a thing?"

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Scotslaw
June 3rd, 2001, 01:08 PM
Back to the Future does not say if you see yourself poof you're gone! Doc Brown advised against letting your past self see your future self in case they interacted and altered the entire space-time continuum (which Biff did in BttF Part 2). Not even Time Cop says you are destroyed if you see yourself, only if you come into physical contact.

As far as going back in time to save dead friends, on the one hand you would think that that would mean they'd never have died, so you would have no reason to go back in time, so they would die, etc. A more popular explanation is that at the moment you interfere in the space-time continuum, an alternate future branches off, and it is to that future that you return. In another branch of time, your friends are still dead. Its what Terry Pratchett calls the trousers of time theory (ie you slip down the other leg!)

Lis
June 4th, 2001, 05:21 AM
Temperal Mechanics never sounded so raunchy!

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PlayCrackTheSky
June 5th, 2001, 02:42 PM
Oh

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McCoy: "A thing? Why is something we don't understand always called a thing?"

~wildangel~
June 5th, 2001, 07:32 PM
Dippy is right. Could not would not ever happen.
Would be spooky though!

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Scotslaw
June 6th, 2001, 04:50 AM
We're being a little harsh on the theory of time travel by saying it will never happen aren't we? Stephen Hawking certainly believes that theoretically it could be possible, and contempories of Einstein (eg Kurt Godel and Roy Kerr) were using Einstein's equations and theory of special relativity to come up with methods of time travel (albeit the travel is only to the future, with no way back). Remember, there is a big difference between the improbable, and the impossible.

As yet, no-one actually knows what time really is. We presume time has a directional arrow, and that is indicated to us by entropy. Entropy can actually be reversed, and in doing so we would effectively be going backwards in time. But it requires vast amounts of energy that we are thus far unable to produce.

Also, we know that the speed of light can be exceeded. Tachyon particles move faster than the speed of light, because they are without mass, and their initial speed is greater than that of the speed of light. There are also sub-atomic particles that appear to exist backwards in time. All the signs indicate that there is a very good chance that time travel is possible, but that we do not have the means (in terms of energy and materials) nor the understanding to utilise it.

Dippy, I don't quite understand what you meant when you said there is exactly no energy in the universe. True, current theory says that there is an equal amount of matter and anti-matter in the universe (and it is even suggested there may be more anti-matter than matter), all that would result in is an anihilation of matter, This reaction would produce energy. There is no anti-energy to cancel energy out, in fact it is impossible to destroy energy. Since matter and energy are convertible, the very existence of matter in the universe indicates that there is energy.

Am I beginning to sound a little too science-geeky? I am aren't I? Poop. I'll stop now.

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Ada_Doom
June 7th, 2001, 03:57 AM
AAAH! AAAH! AAAHHH! Mind-doing!!!! I've only got GCSE Physics! Are you saying time could be simultaneous rather than consecutive, ergo it could be possible to hop from one period in time to another because all events are happening in parallel. Or am I hopelessly out of my depth here?

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Scotslaw
June 8th, 2001, 03:20 AM
You're out of your depth Ada? I don't even understand what I wrote, and its my post!!! Mind you, I'm just up, and haven't had coffee yet...

It's fairly apparent that time is at the very least linear, and not simultaneous (but who knows if it's cyclical...) because we perceive an order to things. If time were simultaneous, we'd perceive everything in time happening at once. Or something like that. But when you get down to the nitty gritty, we don't know what time really is. What is time? Hours, minutes, seconds? They're all human inventions. A year is the time it takes the earth to make one complete orbit of the sun, a second is how long it takes the atoms in some mineral to vibrate so many times, but you come up against that phrase "the time it takes". Time is very little understood, and it hurts the head to try. As long as my watch still works and my favourite programs come on when the TV guide says they will then I'm happy!

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Ada_Doom
June 8th, 2001, 08:02 AM
I'll drink to that Scots!

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Neppy
June 9th, 2001, 02:31 AM
Suddenly my ears are bleeding.

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Serendipity
June 9th, 2001, 04:40 PM
First, Scots, I hope you don’t mind if I clarify what you said about entropy being the indicator of our time direction. I’ll use a simple thought experiment.

Imagine you have two cubes of metal, iron will do fine. They are more or less the same size, and one is hot, the other cold. Now butt them up against each other and hold them there, use imaginary gloves if necessary. Heat will flow from the hot one to the cold one until both cubes are of an even warm temperature. This process is called entropy (described as the Second Law of Thermodynamics by Rudolf Clausius in 1850). Now, imagine trying to do the same experiment in reverse, so start with two warm cubes and wait until one is hot and the other cold, and it will never happen. So entropy occurs in the direction of time that we can perceive. If we now make the tail wag the dog, the direction of time that we perceive is the one that entropy occurs in... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif
That doesn’t mean that other temporal directions are inconceivable: I came across an interesting model for an alternative universe the other day, one with three temporal dimensions and one spatial. It’s occupied solely by tachyons, able to move backwards, forwards, and sideways through time, although they only have a straight line to do this in. Actually, it’s probably a curved line! Or at least time would be curved... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/confused.gif

No energy in the universe? Well, I’ll let Einstein take over the argument, as he thought about these things deeper than you or I. Sorry, this quote is dogmatic for the sake of brevity.

Energy comes in two forms. Energy of motion is positive but potential forms of energy are negative. The latter is possessed by any body that feels an attractive force, like gravity. [...] Einstein’s Theory of Relativity ensures that the total values of the energies of all the masses and motion within them is exactly counterbalanced by the gravitational forces between them. The total energy is zero. From The Book of Nothing, by John D Barrow.

Also, if you’re a Big Banger, then the First Law of Thermodynamics (the law of conservation of energy) applies anyway: since the Big Bang happened ‘out of nothing’, there can be no energy in the universe. All that we see is just an imbalance... so I’ll take back what I said about time travel causing an imbalance in the total energy of the universe, since far greater imbalances exist already, but I would say that it’s not possible for anything other than tachyons to flit about through time. Certainly nothing as big or complex as a human being. Any attempt to do so would surely involve mapping all the particles in the body, both position and momentum? The transporters on the USS Enterprise are fitted with ‘Heisenberg Compensators’, which enable calculation of both position and momentum of all the human body’s particles, but when someone wrote in to ask how they work, he got the reply, “Just fine!” The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that it is impossible to calculate both a particle's position and its momentum, and I sort of understand why, but it’s hard to explain… http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/frown.gif

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PlayCrackTheSky
June 9th, 2001, 09:06 PM
Now it makes sense. Thanks for the hour long explaination.

This has nothing to do with the topic but i started this topic so i can do what i want. (i can do what i want right?) Anyhoo This has been annoying me since we started astronomy im my earth science class.Since space is nothing and you cant have a infinit amount of anything where does it end? Will we hit a wall eventually or something? There cant be a infinit amount of nothing can there? Am i makeing anyone mad with all my questions?

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Ada_Doom
June 11th, 2001, 06:03 AM
You're not making me mad, but my brain feels like one of those lawnmowers that you start by pulling a cord: it keeps going vrrrrrummmduhduhduhduh..duh....duh.......duh...... ......duh........................duh. over and over again, but not starting ever. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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June 11th, 2001, 09:32 AM
And of course, let us not forget Mr. Sam Beckett (Quantum Leap) who theorized that time was like a ball of string & you could leap to different times in the past but no farther back than your own birth.

PlayCrackTheSky
June 11th, 2001, 02:58 PM
Ok Thats good

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~wildangel~
June 11th, 2001, 03:22 PM
Mad???Ofcourse not! Confused? Well...maybe http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Ada_Doom
June 12th, 2001, 08:03 AM
And so Sam Beckett was condemned to leap from life to life, his only companion, Al, an observer from his own time who appears as a hologram that only Sam can see and hear, hoping against hope that each leap, will be the leap home....

There is also the H2G2 theory, but I can't remember what that is. I think that was one of the bits where I got slightly lost....Dippy?

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Lis
June 14th, 2001, 01:26 AM
ohhhh I loved Quantum Leap!!!!
Actually I think I just loved the hologram dude......
I can't really remember,
I was fairly young(er) http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/frown.gif

June 14th, 2001, 08:20 AM
The hologram dude was Al. The actor's name was Dean Stockwell -- SUCH a CUTIE!!

If you liked Scott Bakula in Quantum Leap & you are lucky enough to have the UPN, Scott will be starring in the latest installment of Star Trek "Enterprise" starting this fall!

PlayCrackTheSky
June 15th, 2001, 02:40 PM
Speaking of holograms the one in startrek is funny.

The new Star trek seris is takeing place befor The original. (in star trek time.) so i wonder how it will be.

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Serendipity
June 15th, 2001, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Duo Maxwell:

1) I can do what I want right?

2) Since space is nothing and you can't have a infinite amount of anything where does it end? Will we hit a wall eventually or something? There can't be a infinite amount of nothing, can there?

3) Am I making anyone mad with all my questions?



1) No, you should stick within the topic like everyone else. These questions are fine, however. If you started asking about the Dodgers you'd be out.

2) I want to break up this into several points, and it's a bit circuitous, so bear with me: Space is nothing? Who says? Apart from the massive amounts of Dark Matter out there (that is, dust and other stuff that doesn't glow, as opposed to stars and suchlike), there's a lot of loose hydrogen and other elements in space, nothing like as dense as our atmosphere, but space has loads of stuff in it. That's beside the point, however. If matter exists, then it must exist in space, yes? The universe is expanding, so the amount of space there is is expanding too. It has been recently suggested that a perfect vacuum -a piece of space with absolutely nothing in it - is impossible to achieve - a space that has had everything taken out of it that can be taken out is still far from being a vacuum.

Infinite space. Hm. That's an old-fashioned notion that went out at the turn of the last century, with the advent of Relative Space, as opposed to Absolute Space. The old boring Absolute Space carries on to infinity in all directions, funky modern Relative Space is curved, so there is no problem with infinity. I reckon it's much more exciting to think that if I set out travelling through space in a straight line I'd end up back where I started, don't you? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

I don't think there's any walls out there. Bloody big wall if there is, and of course the inevitable question: What's On The Other Side??? Spooky, but I can't be bothered with speculation.

An Infinite Amount Of Nothing? Treat this as a mathematical problem: If you've ever played around with a pocket calculator and tried dividing any number by zero, you get an error sign, because zero goes into any other number an infinite number of times - this is a good definition of infinity, and is more than calculators (even good ones) can deal with. However, I reckon zero is more powerful than infinity in production, hence: zero x infinity = zero. According to this mathematical model then: No you cannot have an infinite amount of nothing, but that's because nothing is nothing, however much of it you have. Apply this to space, and you might see that space is indeed not nothing (deliberate double negative there... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif).

3) Dunno. Am I making anyone mad with all my answers? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Scotslaw
June 15th, 2001, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Serendipity:
First, Scots, I hope you don’t mind if I clarify what you said about entropy being the indicator of our time direction. I’ll use a simple thought experiment.

I don't mind at all Dippy, it was an excellent example!

No energy in the universe? Well, I’ll let Einstein take over the argument, as he thought about these things deeper than you or I. Sorry, this quote is dogmatic for the sake of brevity.

Energy comes in two forms. Energy of motion is positive but potential forms of energy are negative. The latter is possessed by any body that feels an attractive force, like gravity. [...] Einstein’s Theory of Relativity ensures that the total values of the energies of all the masses and motion within them is exactly counterbalanced by the gravitational forces between them. The total energy is zero. From The Book of Nothing, by John D Barrow.

Is he talking about the energy of the masses themselves? If so, the total energy of the masses may be zero, but that then leaves the masses themselves, convertable to energy, and therefore we have positive amounts of energy in the universe. When he says that motion energy is positive, and potential negative, this reminds me of physics equations, and how we used these types of energies in energy transfer equations. Is he talking about how we view energy in out mathematical relations? If so, then just because we treat them as mathematically cancelled out, doesn't mean there is no ACTUAL energy. As I said, there is no anti-energy. Even if there was, we wouldn't say there was no matter in the universe because of the existence of anti-matter and matter in the universe which could cancel each other out completely (producing, I might add, energy, and with nothing to cause gravity there would then be no negative energy, only positive!). We treat matter and anti-matter as different TYPES of matter. So with positive and negative energy.

Also, if you’re a Big Banger, then the First Law of Thermodynamics (the law of conservation of energy) applies anyway: since the Big Bang happened ‘out of nothing’, there can be no energy in the universe.

Unless you believe that the universe came from the death of a previous, collapsing universe. Or the energy to cause the Big Bang came from another dimension. Or you believe God did it, and being outside the laws of nature is the only being capable of creating energy. Just a thought.

Are there any actual quantum physicists out there? Us amateurs are giving ourselves headaches!

From now on I think I'm going to leave science to the scientists....


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Lis
June 15th, 2001, 09:17 PM
Dippy....how on earth (or in space....or in lack of, whatever) do you find it a more exciting prospect to travel in circles as opposed to a straight line??? I find it scary and restrictive ?

Serendipity
June 16th, 2001, 08:15 AM
Ummm. I'll tackle what Scots said after I've had more coffee! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

Lis, I didn't say anything about travelling in circles, I said that if travelled in a straight line I'd end up back where I started, which is not quite the same thing (I find the idea of travelling either only in a straight line or only in circles restrictive, but this is not about human preferences, it's about getting to 'understand' a model of the universe).

To get a grasp of this, you need to throw away those stale ideas about Euclidean geometry. "Yewcruddian gewhattery???" I hear you cry. Euclidean geometry is planar, that is Euclid (an ancient Greek dude) devised a geometric system that works on flat planes, such as a flat sheet of paper - two dimensions. He stated, among other things that the shortest distance betwen two points is a straight line, and that two parallel lines will never touch, however far they are protracted. This works fine for planar geometry, but goes out the window once you stop working on a flat plane. It's easy to make two parallel lines meet on a convex surface, for example. As for the straight line - two points thing, (aaargh!!) I need more coffee... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Ada_Doom
June 18th, 2001, 04:53 AM
So basically, to put this in a way I can understand, people who belive in infinite space, are the Flat Earthers of the 21st Century?


To go back to the hologram thing, which I did understand, Rimmer on Red Dwarf is the best hologram ever!

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Idnew
June 18th, 2001, 08:20 PM
Boy this gave me a headache just reading it and the only thing that stuck out was Quantum Leap. I loved that show. Hated it when it went off.

And this just became a hot topic. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Lis
June 19th, 2001, 12:14 AM
butta bing, butta bang http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/wink.gif

*nods at Dippy* okay...so I mistook to circle thing....i still stick by the fact that I'd prefere to just travel and travel and get further away from where I started, but yeah, that is preference and really beside the whole entire point *lol*.

I like Red Dwarf.....actually that's not entirely true, what I should say is, I am amused by Red Dwarf at 2 in the morning when the only other thing on telly is infomercials and infomercials http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

Ada_Doom
June 19th, 2001, 04:22 AM
I think it's funny all the time. But maybe that's just because Lister is a scouser....

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Serendipity
June 22nd, 2001, 05:08 PM
I saw a great documentary on Red Dwarf, it had one so-very embarrassing moment when Naylor and Grant (the show's writers) were taking questions from a TV studio audience in the US when a 7 (or so)-year-old kid asked "What does 'smeg' mean?" One of TV's most cringe-making moments, IMO! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Lis
June 22nd, 2001, 06:50 PM
What does smeg mean?

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Ada_Doom
June 25th, 2001, 04:39 AM
Dippy? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Serendipity
June 27th, 2001, 05:40 PM
http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif It's a shortened form of "smegma",
and smegma is dirt found under the foreskin.
Honestly, you guys have had such a sheltered upbringing... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Ada_Doom
June 28th, 2001, 04:16 AM
We have enough bodily excretions of our own to worry about without concerning ourselves with yours! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Lis
June 29th, 2001, 08:21 PM
*hmmmms* right....and here I was thinking that that was called the "dirt found under the foreskin"....heheheh silly me http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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August 31st, 2001, 11:08 PM
Hi. If you all will pardon my intrusion...It seems that if you folks pooled your theories, you could get ahead. Such good thoughts!!

For instance, those who do support the possibility of time travel suggest that the reason is: time could be simultaneous rather than consecutive, ergo it could be possible to hop from one period in time to another because all events are happening in parallel. So, Ada_Doom is not so far beyond depth.

Consider, entropy would actually be a potential for energy... as long at the we keep upsetting the homogeneic balance.

I have to say, tho', i have a hard time with considering laws, however mathmatical, as truth. Laws are still theory. And especially, no tool so limited as the caluculater can prove the existance of infinity. A calculator needs a mind to figure anything. So, what does fact that zero divides into any number an infinite number of times mean? Serendipity proved it does not negate space...

Thanks for humoring me. Nice discussion!!!

Serendipity
September 1st, 2001, 06:21 AM
Again, I need more coffee before I give a considered response, but without a shadow of a doubt I can say with certainty quotient of 100% probability that you are Welcome to Dumb Laws, AllMeringue! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif Are you really all meringue?

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Idnew
September 1st, 2001, 10:38 PM
Welcome All and now we must go ahead and ask these questions. From your name I would guess your a female(can always use more) and the next question is do you want to be a member of the blonde brigade or the brunette and others brigade? Be prepared to get picked on if your blonde. All in fun of course. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Idnew
September 1st, 2001, 10:49 PM
Welcome All. Might as well get to the nitty gritty. By your name are you female? (we can always use more) Are you going to be a member of the blonde brigade or the brunette and others brigade? If your blonde then be prepared to get picked on. All in fun of course unless you don't like our sense of humor. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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September 4th, 2001, 12:41 AM
Wow, cool! ER...Phat...whatever!

Thanks, you guys for welcoming me. I am womankind, and brunette. Although, some have suspected that my roots may be blonde. That's just because what I was discussing went over their heads.

When I was graduating highschool... a pretty lo-ong time ago... my lovely classmates voted me "most likely to reach the ionosphere with no visible means of support!" Same story. I have worked hard to maintain that reputation, ever since. J/k. Truth - I am just a curious person in an even curiouser world!

I have to see red dwarf, now!!!

~ AM

Serendipity
September 4th, 2001, 06:27 AM
Woooow! Hey, if Red Dwarf's cool, Dumb Laws is downright frosty! Stick around, Meringue!

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