I'm sorry, but Bush is just nuts.

[Ateo]

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3027229

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush on Wednesday challenged militants who have been killing and injuring U.S. forces in Iraq, saying "bring them on" because American forces were tough enough to deal with their attacks.

"There are some who feel like that conditions are such that they can attack us there," Bush told reporters at the White House. "My answer is bring them on. We have the force necessary to deal with the situation."


What the hell is wrong with this man? Does he get his jollies from our soldiers dying or something?... or is he trying to start some sort of biblical "End Days" scenario? Wtf.

[DustyBottoms]

Originally posted by tigsnort
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3027229



What the hell is wrong with this man? Does he get his jollies from our soldiers dying or something?... or is he trying to start some sort of biblical "End Days" scenario? Wtf.

So you would prefer a "please dont hurt us" approach. Understood.

[Ateo]

I'm sure the relatives of our soldiers in Iraq were delighted with Bush's remark.

[AWPrime]

Don't worry no one with a mind would listen to Bush.:wink

[sinecure]

I think it's how one deals with the Arab psyche, Tig. They appreciate the bluster and bravado much more than we do. It's a way for Bush to be understood in a very lightweight "Baghdad Bob" kinda way. It doesn't seem to play well in Peoria, however. :p

It really rips the Arab's cord when we not only swagger, but we carry it through!

No more Tomahawks in the desert nonsense.

No more "Boy.... You've REALLY made me mad now!!" speeches.

No more whipped-dog silence.

[w1che]

I give you this one Tigger.. That was a stupid remark that I'm sure Bush wishes he could take back about now..

He should have said something like.."No matter what happens we are not leaving but we will kill some Iraqi butt as needed."

They should stop this touchy feel good crap with the Iraqi's & go back to a war footing.. Take each town where they are having the most problems & kill that nest of Pr*cks still hanging out there.. That the ragheads understand..

They blow up their own oil lines & electric supply & then blame the Americans because we ain't making them all rich fast enough.. Kinda reminds me of some people we have in this country.. :rolleyes:

[DEAD ZONE]

what w1 said

What a dumb @ss statement .
Politicians are good at those.

[aclu14]

I agree with DZ

[Phreakmeister]

http://66.227.101.70/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif Tig, sin, w1, DZ and aclu agreeing... http://216.40.249.192/s/contrib/ed/smileeek.gif

[guitartanic]

Originally posted by w1che
I give you this one Tigger.. That was a stupid remark that I'm sure Bush wishes he could take back about now..

He should have said something like.."No matter what happens we are not leaving but we will kill some Iraqi butt as needed."

They should stop this touchy feel good crap with the Iraqi's & go back to a war footing.. Take each town where they are having the most problems & kill that nest of Pr*cks still hanging out there.. That the ragheads understand..

They blow up their own oil lines & electric supply & then blame the Americans because we ain't making them all rich fast enough.. Kinda reminds me of some people we have in this country.. :rolleyes:

Ragheads? They don't even wear turbans or cloths in Iraq, usually. Lord.

[DustyBottoms]

I'm with Bush - Stop hiding and "bring it on"!

[Ateo]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister
Tig, sin, w1, DZ and aclu agreeing...
It took the stupidity of George W. to bring us all together. Isn't that special? :)

[Idnew]

OH BOY!!:lol I'm sure this togetherness won't last long.

BTW I'm really looking forward to election time to see you all get fired up. Right now Bush has raised more funds than all the democratic candidates put together.

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by Idnew
Right now Bush has raised more funds than all the democratic candidates put together.

That's also because Bush is at this moment the only certain candidate. Together with Ralph Nader perhaps. The Democrats still have to choose their presidential and vice-presidential candidates. That uncertainty about who will be chosen is not a great stimulus to fundraising.

[sinecure]

Originally posted by guitartanic


Ragheads? They don't even wear turbans or cloths in Iraq, usually. Lord.

I heard that the Iraqi's have taken great exception to our calling those headcoverings "rags". I have it on good authority that the hats most of Saddam's posse wore were made from "sheets."

Therefore, I think it would be much more appropriate to call Saddam's crew "sheetheads."

You're welcome. :lol :lol :wave

[aclu14]

:confused Should we call Jews ice cream bowl heads? Or diapraghm heads? (referring to yarmulkes)

[sinecure]

Only when we go to war with them AC...

Only when we go to war... :rolleyes:

Huns
Krauts
Japs
Nips
EyeTies
Reds
Gooks
LBG's [Little Brown Guys]
VC
Zipperheads
Squints
Chinks
etc. etc...

You see, ACLU, it's traditional [and important] to dehumanize the enemy by calling them a name.

The bell rings and class is over. :cool :wave

[mtz23]

Originally posted by sinecure

Huns
Krauts
Japs
Nips
EyeTies
Reds
Gooks
LBG's [Little Brown Guys]
VC
Zipperheads
Squints
Chinks
etc. etc...


you forgot Slope..... http://www.3gupload.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif
BTW this, in no way, says that I condone the use these hurtful words.

[sinecure]

Originally posted by mtz23


you forgot Slope..... http://www.3gupload.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif
BTW this, in no way, says that I condone the use these hurtful words.

...yeah, there's a bunch I didn't list...."Dink" for instance... and several that are not to be used in mixed company. :wink

Would you condone the usage if those being called the name were shooting at you? :confused

[mtz23]

Originally posted by sinecure


Would you condone the usage if those being called the name were shooting at you? :confused

well, you have a point there... http://www.3gupload.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


DIE YOU <insert racial slur here> DIE !!!!!
http://www.3gupload.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/new_2gunsfiring_v1.gif

[w1che]

Quote from ACLU.... Should we call Jews ice cream bowl heads
>>>>>>>

ACLU... I'm beginning to think there is hope for you yet.. :wink

[sinecure]

Originally posted by w1che
Quote from ACLU.... Should we call Jews ice cream bowl heads
>>>>>>>

ACLU... I'm beginning to think there is hope for you yet.. :wink

She may be way ahead of us here, W1che...:wink

[aclu14]

That also somewhat resembles the plastic thing in a jock strap.

[DustyBottoms]

Originally posted by aclu14
That also somewhat resembles the plastic thing in a jock strap.

:lol :lol Someone has stolen ACLU's identity!:lol :lol

[DEAD ZONE]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030713/ts_nm/iraq_qaeda_attacks_dc_2

DUBAI (Reuters) - A group claiming to be linked to the al Qaeda network said in an audio tape aired on an Arab television station on Sunday that they and not the followers of Saddam Hussein were behind attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq.

I swear by God no one from his (Saddam Hussein) followers carried out any jihad operations like he claims...they (attacks) are a result of our brothers in jihad," said the unidentified voice on the tape which was broadcast by Dubai-based Al Arabiya television.


The voice on the tape, which Arabiya aired along with a photograph of an unidentified white-bearded man wearing a turban, also warned of a new anti-U.S. attack in the days to come which would "break the back of America completely."


It was not clear if he was referring to an attack in Iraq or somewhere else.

[Serendipity]

Well, I'm quite happy if Saddam's men and Al-Qaeda want to squabble, DZ - this should underline that Al-Qaeda and Saddam are not synonymous.

Re: Bush. How can it be that such a powerful man has so much to learn? http://www.dumblaws.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by Serendipity
Well, I'm quite happy if Saddam's men and Al-Qaeda want to squabble, DZ - this should underline that Al-Qaeda and Saddam are not synonymous.

Re: Bush. How can it be that such a powerful man has so much to learn? http://www.dumblaws.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif
Read agin. Are you so blind.

there is no squable between the two.
:smash

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE

Read agin. Are you so blind.

there is no squable between the two.
:smash It's well-known that Saddam and Al-Qaeda are not synonymous and do not get on at all well. Saddam may have been a tyrant, a despot, but he is not an Islamic fundamentalist.

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE
there is no squable between the two.
:smash

FYI, DZ: Persistent claims by US and British leaders that Saddam and Osama bin Laden were in league with each other were contradicted by a leaked British Defence Intelligence Staff report, which said there were no current links between them. Mr Bin Laden's "aims are in ideological conflict with present-day Iraq", it added. George Thielman, a former State Department official, said intelligence agencies told the administration well before this spring's war about the "lack of a meaningful connection" to Al Qaeda. "There was no significant pattern of co-operation between Iraq and the Al Qaeda terrorist operation," said Thielman. Another former Bush administration intelligence official said that any contact between Iraq and Al Qaeda was occasional, at best. Those statements were backed up by a UN terrorism committee, which said that the only evidence it had of any ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq was Colin Powell's insistence in a UN speech.
It was also claimed that al-Qa'ida members were being sheltered in Iraq and had set up a poisons training camp. When US troops reached the camp, they found no chemical or biological traces.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by Serendipity
It's well-known that Saddam and Al-Qaeda are not synonymous and do not get on at all well. Saddam may have been a tyrant, a despot, but he is not an Islamic fundamentalist. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It has nothing to do with getting along.Just as the allies did not get along in WW2 right phreak?

[DEAD ZONE]

By Stephen F. Hayes
The Weekly Standard | July 15, 2003


THE INDISPENSABLE Glenn Reynolds has linked to an article in the Nashville Tennessean written by a Tennessee judge who believes he is in possession of documents linking Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.
The judge is Gilbert S. Merritt, a federal appeals court judge invited to help Iraqis construct a legal system in postwar Iraq. He is, according to Reynolds, "a lifelong Democrat and a man of unimpeachable integrity."

Here is an excerpt of his account:

The document shows that an Iraqi intelligence officer, Abid Al-Karim Muhamed Aswod, assigned to the Iraq embassy in Pakistan, is ''responsible for the coordination of activities with the Osama bin Laden group.''

The document shows that it was written over the signature of Uday Saddam Hussein, the son of Saddam Hussein. The story of how the document came about is as follows.

Saddam gave Uday authority to control all press and media outlets in Iraq. Uday was the publisher of the Babylon Daily Political Newspaper.

On the front page of the paper's four-page edition for Nov. 14, 2002, there was a picture of Osama bin Laden speaking, next to which was a picture of Saddam and his ''Revolutionary Council,'' together with stories about Israeli tanks attacking a group of Palestinians.

On the back page was a story headlined ''List of Honor.'' In a box below the headline was ''A list of men we publish for the public.'' The lead sentence refers to a list of ''regime persons'' with their names and positions.

The list has 600 names and titles in three columns. It contains, for example, the names of the important officials who are members of Saddam's family, such as Uday, and then other high officials, including the 55 American ''deck of cards'' Iraqi officials, some of whom have been apprehended.

Halfway down the middle column is written: ''Abid Al-Karim Muhamed Aswod, intelligence officer responsible for the coordination of activities with the Osama bin Laden group at the Iraqi embassy in Pakistan.''

The story Judge Merritt relates is similar to an account reported in The Weekly Standard last May. Splashed across the front page of the November 16, 2002, edition of Uday Hussein's Babil newspaper were two "honor" lists, one of which included Aswod (spelled "Aswad") and identified him as the "official in charge of regime's contacts with Osama bin Laden's group and currently the regime's representative in Pakistan."

I stumbled upon this passage doing research for another piece. So I brought the article to the attention of administration officials, who hadn't yet seen it, and asked for comment. Intelligence analysts were perplexed, particularly because of a passage in the text preceding the list. It read: "We publish this list of great men for the sons of our great people to see." And below that: "This is a list of the henchmen of the regime. Our hands will reach them sooner or later. Woe unto them. A list of the leaders of Saddam's regime, as well as their present and previous posts."

The second description was clearly hostile in tone--"henchmen of the regime" and "woe unto them." Analysts weren't sure what to make of the introduction or the list, but suggested Uday Hussein may have simply republished a list of "henchmen" distributed by an Iraqi opposition group without realizing he was publicly linking his father to Osama bin Laden.

That still seems like the most plausible explanation to me. (Although Judge Merritt's report that the front page of the four-page newspaper carried side-by-side photographs of bin Laden and Saddam is interesting.) Still, some intelligence officials believe that Aswad--who publicly raised doubts after September 11 about whether Osama bin Laden is a terrorist--was an important link between Iraq and al Qaeda.

If the newspaper reports are interesting but inconclusive, two other recent reports are more compelling. Jessica Stern, a Harvard professor and Clinton administration national security official, discusses the links in a fascinating and sober analysis of the Al Qaeda threat in the current issue of Foreign Affairs.

Under the subheading, "Friends of Convenience," she writes:

Meanwhile, the Bush administration's claims that al Qaeda was cooperating with the "infidel" (read: secular) Saddam Hussein while he was still in office are now also gaining support, and from a surprising source. Hamid Mir, bin Laden's "official biographer" and an analyst for al Jazeera, spent two weeks filming in Iraq during the war. Unlike most reporters, Mir wandered the country freely and was not embedded with U.S. troops. He reports that he has "personal knowledge" that one of Saddam's intelligence operatives, Farooq Hijazi, tried to contact bin Laden in Afghanistan as early as 1998. At that time, bin Laden was publicly still quite critical of the Iraqi leader, but he had become far more circumspect by November 2001, when Mir interviewed him for the third time.

Hijazi has acknowledged meeting with al Qaeda representatives, perhaps with bin Laden himself, even before the outreach in 1998. According to news reports and interviews with intelligence officials, Hijazi met with al Qaeda leaders in Sudan in 1994.

Former Navy Secretary John Lehman, a member of the congressional commission investigating the September 11 attacks, added to the intrigue this week when he flatly declared, "there is evidence" of Iraq-al Qaeda links. Lehman has access to classified intelligence as a member of the commission, intelligence that has convinced him the links may have been even greater than the public pronouncements of the Bush administration might suggest. "There is no doubt in my mind that [Iraq] trained them in how to prepare and deliver anthrax and to use terror weapons."
http://www.instapundit.com/archives/010446.php

http://tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml?Element_ID=34908297

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/628wqxma.asp

http://www.weeklystandard.com/

[Serendipity]

The enemy of my enemy?

[deep sarcasm]Would anyone care to submit a list of countries that America thinks is OK - an 'Axis of Mickey,' if you will? I can't think of any right now, but there must be some.[/deep sarcasm]

[AWPrime]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


It's more like: After America your next!