Bush and the nature

[DEAD ZONE]

BUSH’S HELICOPTER-AND-HIKING tour of the devastation left behind by fire in mountainous Summerhaven, Arizona, near Tucson, is also meant to illustrate what he says his proposals can help save.
The preventive forest thinning Bush is trying to accelerate helped ensure the survival of $2 billion in telecommunications equipment, camps owned by churches and Boy Scout and Girl Scout groups and two mountain observatories, said James Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
“When you don’t do (thinning), you get moonscapes with matchsticks,” Connaughton said in a telephone interview Sunday. “When you do the work right, you get thriving, natural forest that’s got a nice, wide canopy.”
http://www.msnbc.com/news/950715.asp?0si=-
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So,can someone explain to me how a dude in the forest with a chain saw is "All natural"?

Not that I am against it inn theory as far as keeping fires down but,it kinda smells of big buss. logging interest to me.

[AWPrime]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE

So,can someone explain to me how a dude in the forest with a chain saw is "All natural"?

Impossible no one can explain that.

[sinecure]

The "dude with a chainsaw" takes the place of naturally-ignited fires that would have cleared out the underbrush and incrementally reduced the available fuel.

The USFS's policy for the past 50+ years of putting out every single fire as quickly as possible has done harm to the National Forests. We've seen in the past couple of years when we get those million-acre blazes that can't be controlled or stopped... we just have to wait until they burn out.

Yeah, I know... the Sierra Club has a differing opinion.

Tig is up ther in the Tree Country... he ought to have some ideas...

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by sinecure
The "dude with a chainsaw" takes the place of naturally-ignited fires that would have cleared out the underbrush and incrementally reduced the available fuel.

The USFS's policy for the past 50+ years of putting out every single fire as quickly as possible has done harm to the National Forests. We've seen in the past couple of years when we get those million-acre blazes that can't be controlled or stopped... we just have to wait until they burn out.

Yeah, I know... the Sierra Club has a differing opinion.

Tig is up ther in the Tree Country... he ought to have some ideas...
If they are naturally occuring fires,why are they not occurring? Why are dudes with flame throwers running around doing "controlled burns" and others with axes?

Dont sound natural to me. I get the reasonning but it is not natural.

Actually,the burns in yellow stone were the result of allowing it to continue if I remember correctly.The policy of stopping fires was lifted I beleive a few yr`s ago or so.
They talk about protecting property,houses incampments ect. Those are not natural either so I am suspiciouse of the entire thing myself.

[sinecure]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE

If they are naturally occuring fires,why are they not occurring? Why are dudes with flame throwers running around doing "controlled burns" and others with axes?

Well, the USFS puts out all the naturally-occurring fires with a compulsiveness akin only to the Army Corps of Engineers' manic dam-building imperative.

Dont sound natural to me. I get the reasonning but it is not natural.

Actually,the burns in yellow stone were the result of allowing it to continue if I remember correctly.The policy of stopping fires was lifted I beleive a few yr`s ago or so.
They talk about protecting property,houses incampments ect. Those are not natural either so I am suspiciouse of the entire thing myself.

See:

http://www.idahonews.com/yellowst/yelofire.htm

for the real story on the Yellowstone fire. Years of "put it out" philosophy in the National Parks allowed a fuel growth that became a true tragedy after a summer with little rain. NOW they have decided to allow "controlled burns" in National Parks/ Forests. A good idea, but a little late, IMO.

Nobody's clear-cutting Yellowstone, DZ. It may be a moot point anyway-- seen this?
http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2003/07/30/news/export5845.txt