Something meaningful in the White House?

[Serendipity]

Go to: http://www.brianwestbrook.com/whitehousegov-day1_full.jpg

Boy, you gotta hand it to the new administration...

I found the addy in "The Guardian", who've mentioned Dumb Laws more than once. They also had this little article:

"George Bush resorted to the "C" word after being sworn in as America's 43rd President., appealing to the citizenry to change their ways and stop expecting the government to do everything for them. A bit more civility, courage, compassion and character were what the US needed from its people, he said. This would leave him free to get on with building national missile defences, being horrid to Iraq, wrecking (that is to say, reforming) the state education system, and curtailing abortion rights. Dubya has meanwhile redecorated the Oval Office with a peaches and cream colour scheme, and banned his aides from wearing jeans at work. Cowboy boots are OK, presumably."

[paulgro]

I do not look foward to the next 4 years! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/frown.gif

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[Code_Monk]

Neither do I paul.
Now, I did not particularly like Clinton, but then again, I have a distrust for pretty much all politicians.

My wife pointed something out that was very interesting. Next time you go out, take notice. When driving around town (or out of town), see how many old beat up cars you see people driving.
I have noticed that there are alot less of those beat up old rust buckets on the road then there were before Clinton was in office.

That tells me that most people are better off these days then before Clinton was in office.

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by paulgro:
I do not look foward to the next 4 years! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/frown.gif



Something in my blood tells me Dubya'll only be in office 4 years, jus' like his pappy.

[paulgro]

You never know. Reagan was reelected and he destroyed this country. If you were upper middle class you thought he did a fine job. The same may hold true for Bush!

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[Serendipity]

Possible, but I'm being hopeful (born optimist, see). Over here we were alarmed at the relationship between Reagan and Thatcher, and Thatcher had a nasty way of creating more Tory seats by manipulating constituency boundaries, and Tory voters by instigating boom (and bust) fiscal policies. The bubble didn't burst for the right wing here until '97, and even now we're stuck with a quasi-socialist government (ie not at all socialist, but the Labour Party was always the mainstream socialist party).

Don't you feel that Reagan was just a mouthpiece with no ability to think for himself? Clinton, for all his faults, didn't give that impression. Bush Sr. tried for reelection at just the wrong time.

[paulgro]

It's thought that Nancy his wife did most of the thinking for him. now knowing he has Alzheimer's she probably did.
Bushes down fall was saying he wouldn,t raise taxes and making a big deal about it, then raised taxes while practicing Reaganomics at the sametime, which he said he wouldn't do. When people talk about Clinton, they might not like his morals, but he knew how to run a country.

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[Serendipity]

Yeah, and Clinton knew how to represent his country too. It aws a real shame to see the Republicans get so much mileage out of the Monica story. In France ministers are pretty much expected to have mistresses, and it certainly doesn't get in the way of doing their job.

[Midnight77]

Originally posted by Code_Monk:
Neither do I paul.
Now, I did not particularly like Clinton, but then again, I have a distrust for pretty much all politicians.

My wife pointed something out that was very interesting. Next time you go out, take notice. When driving around town (or out of town), see how many old beat up cars you see people driving.
I have noticed that there are alot less of those beat up old rust buckets on the road then there were before Clinton was in office.

That tells me that most people are better off these days then before Clinton was in office.

Part of that might be because several places have been making laws that say your car has to meet certain requirements and having rust on them or dents or such stupid things makes the car unroadworthy. There's also a lot more people using public transportation, but not necessarily because they want to.

[Code_Monk]

Midnight....There are still plenty of beat up rusty cars around here. Just far less than there was 8 years ago.
And the only "public" transportation around here is a taxi or the back of a deputies car http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif
When I said what I said, I was basing that on what I see around here (and on my recent trip).
To me it is real noticable, since I got a new (to me) car and dumped my old rust bucket last year.

[Serendipity]

Code, do you feel better off? Could you suddenly afford a newer car? Pretty much the same thing is going on over here, so it's not just the US. Loads of new cars. Loads of ways to buy them, too. I recently had to get rid of my rustpile Sierra after some kids put a hole in the rear window; they chose my car because it was so old. I live in a city so it's not too important that I don't have a car right now, but I could easily get a halfway decent one at a good price.

[Code_Monk]

Dippy, yes i do feel better off.
But I'm sure thats mostly my own doing.
I have worked harder over the years.
Maybe its just getting easier to buy new cars these days than it was 10 years ago.
I dunno, just seeing that there are more new cars around then ther were 10 years ago, struck me as more than just a coincidence.

[paulgro]

My wife works at the unemployment office. During the republican years they were swamped with people collecting me being one of them after working 19 years at the same place. When Clinton took over unemployment went down and companies started hiring again. Maybe that's why you see all those new cars.

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[Idnew]

Oh I don't know I'm still driving a 10 yr old that I love. It's also easier to get new vehicles and they are also being repossed just about as fast because they can't pay for them. Rather keep mine and not go in debt for a new one or even a good used one.

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[LawEn4cer]

I was too young to think what Reagan did was Ok or not...but I think Bush was a good pres. And I think his son will be an even better one. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I proudly voted for him because I agree with much of what he stood for. And I couldn't stand it if Gore was leading this country.... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/tongue.gif
"Yeah, and Clinton knew how to represent his country too." lol Only if you mean he was representing a good country while lying through his teeth and committing adultry.

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[~wildangel~]

I personally think clinton sucks, and Gore being president Is kind of like Clinton being president all over again! Maybe I'm wrong I dont keep up with politics, It just seems to me like Gore Is a fake and so is his wife,plus I heard bush Is for "the people", It seems to me that taxes will go up If gore is president...look what heppened to our gas prices with clinton pres.But I dont even want to get into this because I really dont know anything just what I hear!

[paulgro]

The fact of the matter is Reagan lowered taxes yes by charging everything and not paying the bills. The rich got tax brakes the poor got the shaft. When unemployment started rising because of lay off's he put a tax on unemployment checks to make up the difference. He counted Social Securty funds into the budget so we looked like the deficit wasn't as bad as it was. He counted the Military as employed and said he created those jobs. Then there was Iran Contra. He sure was one hell of a president! Bush folled Reaganomics, after saying before he was elected that it didn't work! That's why he didn't get reelected. His son doesn't know his ass from his elbows that's why he's trying to get the best people money can buy. You might not like Clinton, but he pulled this country out of a hole. Gore is no Clinton, but he's not as dumb as people think.

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[Serendipity]

Hop here: http://www.private-eye.co.uk/frames/index.htm

(from one of the best satirical papers anywhere)

Frankly, Law, Clinton's adultery was a red herring, nobody with an ounce of political sense gave a d*mn about it. It didn't affect you, your job, your family, your education, your prospects, your health care, or anything. It was just the only thing that the Republicans could get their teeth into, and it was not about politics or how the country was being run, it was a family thing and that's all. OK, Clinton shouldn't have lied about it, but put him next to Reagan or Bush, who have their buddies interests at heart and nobody else's, and you'll see that he was one of the best statesmen the US has produced in decades. Sure, he wasn't perfect, no politician is, but... Reagan couldn't string a thought together, and as for Bush Jr.... heaven help us all. The man is otnay ootay ightbray, OK?

[~wildangel~]

Not to impune your speach Dippy(the wonderfull speach it was)But actually the adultry issue Is a very big deal to most people believe it or not!A president Is s'posed to be looked up to, not frowned apon as a leader and a role model to our children and our childrens children and that was a most disgusting thing he did to most of us!
for God sakes It's bad enough he did it and whats worse Is he did it with Monica Lewinski!At least get with Pamela anderson or someother bimbo that actually LOOKS good!
That was an embaressment for the US (IMO)
Look at jfk jr. ( he chose marylyn monroe, he didnt pick some sleazy fat secretary:rolleyes http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Serendipity]

Wild, I appreciate what you say (here comes that word...) BUT you shouldn't look up to the Prez! Why on earth should you? He's your equal, isn't that what all that democracy/freedom stuff is about, equality? Did God make him any different to you? Cut him, does he not bleed? Judge him on how well he does his job, and leave it at that. Regard him as if he's no more important than a bank manager. He has more executive power, I grant you, but if your bank manager slept with another man's wife, you might not approve, but should he lose his job? If he's good at his job I should say no. The Lewinsky affair (I agree she's no Monroe! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif) was indeed an embarrassment for the US, mostly because the US thought it was so important. There were far more pressing things for Clinton to attend to at the time, such as Kosovo, if I remember right. I don't look up to Blair, or expect him to be some expert on morality; can he run the country better than whoever else wants the job? is all I ask.

[Lis]

ALL Pollies and I are equal? Oh dear...*losing self-respect quite quickly*

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[cleoeo]

My biggest disappointment with Clinton in the Lewinski affair was that he looked me in the eye (on TV) and stated flat out that he never had sexual relations with her. He would have pulled off the big lie too, if he hadn't left some presidue on her dress. He should have just said "no comment, go to He**" when asked about the affair.

[paulgro]

cleoeo, I love your sense of humor!!! "Presidue" LOL

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[~wildangel~]

YEAH...I know what look you mean too, If he lied about that he probobly lies about everything!

[Idnew]

*nods head up and down* Makes you wonder what truths if any he did tell.

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[Serendipity]

Now, all politicians are economical with the truth...

[Lis]

Economical? How about conveniently careless?

[CBranski]

Originally posted by Lis:
Economical? How about conveniently careless?


From the mouths of babes come true wisdom. Wise (and cynical) beyond your years you are Lis... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Serendipity]

Yet they're so careful to be so careless...

[Serendipity]

AAARGH!! I saw a US Prezzy press conference tonight, a humble BBC reporter asked Bush a simple enough question... I am very scared.

[Idnew]

It'll be ok take your meds. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif What was the question? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/confused.gif

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[Lis]

*grinz at CB* it takes a special kinda half wit to slag the government http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by Idnew:
It'll be ok take your meds. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif What was the question? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/confused.gif



I think it was "What are you going to discuss with Prime Minister Blair in your meeting tomorrow?" Something like that. Clearly his aides hadn't briefed him on that issue. As you may or may not know, the UK has a "Special Relationship" with the US, which means that the US can put up lots of air bases in the UK and any American soldiers stationed here can safely ignore UK law (that is only a very slight exaggeration). In return, we are very grateful to the Americans for defending us and for making sure that if a nuclear war does kick off, we'll be the first to know about it whilst the US hides behind her stupid, unnecessary, and very expensive new missile defense system. The "Special Relationship" involves the British swallowing a big lie (see Saint's sig), that America is interested in making the world safe for democracy.

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by Midnight77
Part of that might be because several places have been making laws that say your car has to meet certain requirements and having rust on them or dents or such stupid things makes the car unroadworthy.

Good riddance. Let's get the petrol drinkers off the streets, for the sake of the environment. For the sake of driver safety.

There's also a lot more people using public transportation, but not necessarily because they want to.

Again: good riddance. Public transportation is way better for the environment. 40 people in 1 bus means less pollution, less traffic, thus less traffic jams, less dangerous situations (less crowded streets), etc., than 40 people in 40 cars.

Lawen4er and Wildangel are two very smart people, into which I'v the greatest respect for..............