"Axis of Evil"

[aclu14]

I just thought about this: Pres. Bush has insulted the countries of Iran, Iraq, North Korea. He is trying to provoke these countries to declare war on the USA, so that he has an excuse to blow them off the face of the planet.
Sounds plausible to me, especially after reading Hex's piece.

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[MacReady]

Lol first, he called terrorist "evil-doers" Anyone noticed Bush like using this word, "Evil" Oh this country is evil, look at that person, I bet he's evil. Bush is being hypocrite, cuz he is evil too by abusing power to be president.

[Idnew]

Pres. Bush has insulted the countries of Iran, Iraq, North Korea. He is trying to provoke these countries to declare war on the USA, so that he has an excuse to blow them off the face of the planet.

So what's the problem? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif


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[TV_Guy]

I dare him to do it to china....lol.

Did I mention this guy choked on a pretzel?
(What's that? Twice already you say?)

[Phreakmeister]

The problem is that as far as Iran is concerned, this is the wrong approach. This will only lead the people into the hands of the fundamentalists, led by ayatollah Khamenei. However, we need to help president Khatami, who is a wonderful guy. He needs to be able to carry out his plans. And Bush isn't really helping him by saying things like this.

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[MacReady]

Also before Blair from England was supporting USA and Bush on war in Aftghanisan. Remember England and Blair joined with USA? Ok, now after Bush labelled 3 or 4 countries as axis of evil, now Blair and England is being quiet, and not going after those 3 or 4 countries. Many countries think Bush is being stupid for label such thing. Before England support Bush's speech after WTC, but now England is not supporting Axis of Evil speech.

[Phreakmeister]

I was wondering: what country, other than the US, wouldn't Bush see as 'evil'?
The Netherlands he would definitely see as evil (legal euthanasia, legal abortion, legal softdrugs, legal prostitution, same sexe marriage). Austria for being the country of Haider? Possible but not likely.
Cuba? Oh yes oh yes oh yes. Colombia for the drug trafficking? Could be.

I really really wonder how far George Bush would go in the War Against Terrorism. I think it was Dick Cheney, who threatened to blow up the NATO, if European countries do not meet the wishes of the US administration sufficiently. I'm really afraid this administration doesn't know its limits. At the cost of every single soul on this planet.


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At first I was a big supporter of this hard, attacking approach to the so called war on terrorism (however you know and I know this definately isn't really a war, just as the "war on drugs" isn't a war either...). Now I am rethinking my position on the issue with the Taliban's forces pretty much decimated, Pres. Bush is moving into other areas of the world to prolong the so-called war.

With the Enron scandal heating up, I personally believe Bush is somehow linked to it whether directly or indirectly, and is using the war as a cover. Whether he is partly responsible for Enron isn't the big question...he could also cover for those who he knows are responsible (as Nixon did for his party members in the Watergate scandal).

So in essence, look for the truth. Stay skeptical.

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[cleoeo]

Bush's approval rating with the US voters skyrocketed after the WTC bombing and the ensuing "war on terrorism". I'm still REALLY pissed off that with one coordinated attack a small group of religious fundamentalist lunatics could turn this country's focus so much. Bush is going to ride this military buildup and saber-rattling for years. **** Bin Laden for playing into the hands of the US military-industrial complex!

[CBranski]

President Bush refferred to Iraq and North Korea as evil because well, they are-how else should we refer to countries that starve their own people so they can stockpile weapons of mass destruction?

As far as Enron goes, one must bear in mind that they asked the Bush administration for help and didn't get it-they gave a lot of cash to Democrats as well.

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[Serendipity]

Good to see you both again, CB and Cleoeo http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

For those who want to get a grin out of the whole thing, this has been doing the rounds:
Bitter after being snubbed for membership in the "Axis of Evil," Libya, China, and Syria today announced they had formed the "Axis of Just as Evil," which they said would be way eviler than that stupid Iran-Iraq-North Korea axis President Bush warned of in his State of the Union address.
Axis of Evil members, however, immediately dismissed the new axis as having, for starters, a really dumb name. "Right. They are Just as Evil... in their dreams!" declared North Korean leader Kim Jong-il. "Everybody knows we're the best evils... best at being evil... we're the best."

Diplomats from Syria denied they were jealous over being excluded, although they conceded they did ask if they could join the Axis of Evil. "They told us it was full," said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

"An Axis can't have more than three countries," explained Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. "This is not my rule, it's tradition. In World War II you had Germany, Italy, and Japan in the evil Axis. So you can only have three. And a secret handshake. Ours is wicked cool."

THE AXIS PANDEMIC

International reaction to Bush's Axis of Evil declaration was swift, as within minutes, France surrendered.

Elsewhere, peer-conscious nations rushed to gain triumvirate status in what became a game of geopolitical chairs. Cuba, Sudan, and Serbia said they had formed the Axis of Somewhat Evil, forcing Somalia to join with Uganda and Myanmar in the Axis of Occasionally Evil, while Bulgaria, Indonesia and Russia established the Axis of Not So Much Evil Really As Just Generally Disagreeable.

With the criteria suddenly expanded and all the desirable clubs filling up, Sierra Leone, El Salvador, and Rwanda applied to be called the Axis of Countries That Aren't the Worst But Certainly Won't Be Asked to Host the Olympics; Canada, Mexico, and Australia formed the Axis of Nations That Are Actually Quite Nice But Secretly Have Nasty Thoughts About America, while Spain, Scotland, and New Zealand established the Axis Of Countries That Want to Be Allowed to Ask Sheep to Wear Lipstick. "That's not a threat, really, just something we'd like to do," said Scottish Executive First Minister Jack McConnell.

While wondering if the other nations of the world weren't perhaps making fun of him, a cautious Bush granted approval for most axes, although he rejected the establishment of the Axis of Countries Whose Names End in "Guay," accusing one of its members of filing a false application. Officials from Paraguay, Uruguay, and Chadguay denied the charges. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[The Horseman]

What I can't understand is Iran and Iraq both as members. I mean, aren't axises (what exactely is the plural?) meant to be alliances? For a man now expressing a lot of interest in foreign affairs (which the Republicans seem to be ignoring before September 11th), Bush seems to have a very weak grasp of Middle Eastern history, to talk about an alliance between Iraq and Iran - sort of worrying when you're talking about a country that has always tried to resolve one of the most complicated problems of modern times, the whole Israel-Palestine thing

[Phreakmeister]

The plural I think is axes. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Iran and Iraq forming an axis as in forming an alliance????????????????????
Hell no. They are arch-enemies. As enemy as enemy can be.
It's like saying that Hamas is running for a seat the Israeli parliament. (maybe they're running for it, but not as in 'candidacy')
It's like saying that Pakistan and India want to join forces.
It's like saying that Bush is running for the presidency for the Communist Party.
It's like saying that Martin Luther King is chairman of the Ku Klux Klan.

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[aclu14]

http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Sounds like The Onion, Dipster http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

The way I see it, it's the Bush administration that's evil. Patriotism is brainwashing the American people and they don't know what's really going on in their name.
If there's any country in the world that should be blown up, it's America... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif
Hope the Republicans don't get their say in the next election.... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif

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[cleoeo]

The "Axis of Evil" garbage was not President Bush's words, nor did it reflect his convictions. He has speachwriters and poll takers to handle his words and convictions. That's what's scary. Bush's personal idea of military action is cruising for chicks off-base while serving in the Texas Air Guard.
It's weird that George Bush Sr (decorated war hero, head of CIA) had to battle the "wimp factor" politically. Ronald Reagan (movie actor, pretend cowboy) was considered a "man's man". Now coddled George Bush Jr (dumb rich kid) is seen as strong and determined. Thank you TV spin doctors!

[weldordave]

Originally posted by aclu14:
http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Sounds like The Onion, Dipster http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

If there's any country in the world that should be blown up, it's America... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif
Hope the Republicans don't get their say in the next election.... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/eek.gif


Then why don't you move to Iran, Iraq, or N. Korea? Then you can have all the high-grade rice and all the freedom you deserve. I'll buy your plane ticket.

[The Horseman]

You're probably right about the spin doctors. Like most people, Americans have always had to have someone to hate. And after the collapse of the USSR, why not the 'axis'. For a man with 80% approval ratings, the temptation must have been great. After all, what comes up has only one place to go.

Originally posted by TV_Guy:
Did I mention this guy choked on a pretzel?
(What's that? Twice already you say?)

And... you've never choked or farted or burped... or done anything at all that normal human's do?

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by The Horseman:
You're probably right about the spin doctors. Like most people, Americans have always had to have someone to hate. And after the collapse of the USSR, why not the 'axis'.

True. O so true. Too true even.
And after the non-existent 'Axis of Evil', the US administration will probably go after the EU, for its so-called protectionist policy, which allegedly closes the European market for American products. Not knowing that the US has much higher import tariffs and stuff like that..........
And after that India, for not allowing US companies to let small children work for them for next to nothing. And after that Taiwan, for unlawfully declaring independence from "our great friends" in China.
Thank god this man can only remain in power for at most 8 years. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see him do an extra term in office. And another one. And another one.

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[Serendipity]

In a way, it's probably a good thing that the Axis has been identified as the natural enemy of the US - even though it's a purely American invention. Bush seemed to be gunning for China before 9-11 changed his priorities. THAT would be an ugly war, except the pre-9-11 tension was probably only for propaganda to justify the NMD project.

[The Horseman]

The fact that he is gunning for anybody cannot really be a good thing. After all, why shouldn't the Islamic countries united behind Iran (and prehaps Iraq)? Saddam may be unpopular amongst the Middle-East countries, but he's Islamic. Basically, they'll think that although he may be a ruthless, psychopathic killer, he's THEIR ruthless, psychopathic killer, and what right has the US to depose him. Now, I don't agree with that at all, but that's beside the point. How do you depose a tyrant that the people want to have? And Iran is one of the leading Islamic states in that part of the world. If the US loses Irani support, then it might to hell to the coalition.

[aclu14]

No thanks Weldordave
It's just that I'm not a patriotic person, I'm just waiting for the world to end...
Why did I have to be born on the 4th of July?

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