Pretty Boy Edwards

[w1che]

Pretty Boy has to bail his stupid running mate out.. I wonder who will be President here if the world falls apart & they get elected?


Kerry Says He's 'Against the War' in Iraq
By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Morning Editor
July 12, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - Is Sen. John F. Kerry for or against the war in Iraq? Viewers of the CBS program "60 Minutes" watched CBS Correspondent Leslie Stahl try to get a direct answer to her repeated question.

"I think the president made a mistake in the way he took us to war," Kerry told Stahl on Sunday evening's program.. "I am against the war -- the way the president went to war was wrong."

But Kerry also said he doesn't regret his vote giving President Bush the authority to go to war "as a last resort." Said Kerry, "I believe, based on the information we have, it was the correct vote."

Kerry repeated that "the way [President Bush] went to war was a mistake." Stahl did not ask him exactly what he would do about the war if he is elected president.

Sen. John Edwards, jumping to Kerry's defense, said the difference between Bush and Kerry is this: "If John Kerry were president of the United States, we would never be in this place. He would never have done what George Bush did. He would have done the hard work to build the alliances and the support system."

Edwards said he and Kerry would have "found out" that Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction, and he said President Bush "didn't do the things that should have been done before taking this country to war."

Most press reports on the "60 Minutes" interview concentrated on Kerry defending his "youthful" running mate. Kerry said Sen. Edwards is "more qualified" to lead the nation than George W. Bush was four years ago.

[~wildangel~]

Kerry was for the war, now against the war...i don't think he knows which way to put his socks and underwear on everyday

[DustyBottoms]

They belong together. Add them up and you still have less than 1/2 of a president.

Smacks of a total lack of leadership capabilities. :luck

[Ateo]

Tell me something: besides people in the Bush administration, who else was calling for an invasion of Iraq prior to the Bushies bringing the idea up publicly?

[RosieWolf]

Originally posted by tigsnort
Tell me something: besides people in the Bush administration, who else was calling for an invasion of Iraq prior to the Bushies bringing the idea up publicly?

well, as i recall, there were a few million plain-jane/joe americans calling for iraqi heads on a platter in the days following 9-11.. they didn't want to wait till we knew who did it for sure, they wanted to bomb the crap out of them right then.. there were a few hundred on straight dope from new york on that list. i suggested that very thing the year before when they bombed the uss. Cole and was told i was nothing but a war-mongering (bleep-bleep), but as soon as they hit New York.. ohhhhhh how the stories changed!!!!..

it was your President who suggested caution and didn't start the war until after other options had been exhausted.. and the congressmen and women you voted into office supported him 100%.. no , it wasn't about oil and it wasn't even really about kicking terrorist a$$, it was about revenge for what they did to new yorkers.. they didn't give a rats a$$ about plain old american soldiers.. only that they were new yawkers and hit us on our turf.. that's what pissed the 'people' off..

[w1che]

So true Rosie but I think Tig knows that. Lets just wait & see what angle he is going to pull on that question.. :luck

[Ateo]

What I'm pulling is the reality that virtually NO ONE was calling for an invasion before Bush did. You guys keep saying "the whole world knew! The whole world knew!", and yes, the whole world knew about the unaccounted for weapons, but no one was saying Iraq needed to be invaded pre-emptively (btw "pre-emptive" is really a misnomer, being as how Iraq was not preparing to attack us). It was only after Bush said Iraq was a dire threat that people began to focus on it. And now most Americans think it was a bad idea & wasn't worth it, for obvious reasons.

Saying Kerry is a flip-flopper on the war is such a weak argument, because 1) Bush is a worse flip-flopper than Kerry is and 2) Kerry's explanations of why he voted for the war are reasonable--it matches up with why many, many Americans were for the war then and against it now.

At least Kerry offers an explanation about why he flip-flopped.

[w1che]

See I knew we were going to get another stupid, made up, diatribe. Bush has always stuck to his guns on why he went to war with Iraq. It's you liberal deadheads that keep saying the only reason was WMD'S not Bush. For about the 50th time Bush got bad intel and not all of it was from the CIA. Have you forgotten what Putin said about Iraq? No you haven't you just hope we have. Try to read this slow or have your cat read it to you Tigger... The whole world thought saddam had WMD'S and Bush simply could not take the chance of Saddam giving any to the terrorist after 9/11. Had he done nothing, had been wrong, and the terrorist did a WMD attack in America Bush would have been impeached and rightly so..

DID YOU HAVE YOUR CAT READ THAT TO YOU? :question

[DustyBottoms]

Originally posted by w1che
See I knew we were going to get another stupid, made up, diatribe. Bush has always stuck to his guns on why he went to war with Iraq. It's you liberal deadheads that keep saying the only reason was WMD'S not Bush. For about the 50th time Bush got bad intel and not all of it was from the CIA. Have you forgotten what Putin said about Iraq? No you haven't you just hope we have. Try to read this slow or have your cat read it to you Tigger... The whole world thought saddam had WMD'S and Bush simply could no take the chance of Saddam giving any to the terrorist after 9/11. Had he done nothing, had been wrong, and the terrorist did a WMD attack in America Bush would have been impeached and rightly so..

DID YOU HAVE YOUR CAT READ THAT TO YOU? :question

Great reply W1che! Wish it was mine...

[Ateo]

Originally posted by w1che
The whole world thought saddam had WMD'S and Bush simply could no take the chance of Saddam giving any to the terrorist after 9/11.
What you don't seem to grasp is that before you go to war based on the premise that some country might be giving weapons to some people that might use them on you, you've got to make a case based on--at best-- a high standard of evidence. I'm sorry wunch but you just can't go invading some country because you have a pretty good idea or a strong feeling. That is not the way America works.

Bush may have been duped by his own people, fine. That does not mean he is not responsible or accountable. He was running the show. The buck stops with him.

9/11 was a terrible event, but not terrible enough to justify compromising our philosophical foundations or rules of law. STOP using that as an excuse to act stupid. Grow up. The world is a dangerous place and on 9/11 that became a palpable reality for you, me and every American. That doesn't mean the rules change. Changing the rules is to give in to hysteria. When we do that the terrorists will win, literally.

[AWPrime]

Originally posted by w1che
Bush has always stuck to his guns on why he went to war with Iraq.
That is being mule headed.



The whole world thought saddam had WMD'S
There is a diff between might have and have.

Bush was so desperate for a fight that he took the unknown for a 'fact'.

[w1che]

Quote from Tig.. Bush may have been duped by his own people, fine. That does not mean he is not responsible or accountable. He was running the show. The buck stops with him.
>>>>>>
See now that's why I ask you to have your cat read my post to you. I'm sorry Tigger but you must have an inherent problem understanding what you read. What's so hard about understanding.. THE WHOLE WORLD THOUGHT SADDAM HAD WMD'S .. I don't get it unless you have this problem where you read backwards.

Bush & Blair didn't just think maybe, could have, I guess. They were convinced that WMD'S were in Iraq..

You need to have your cat read & explain the rules for going to war to you also and then think about everything that Saddam was doing to justify us doing just that..

[AWPrime]

Originally posted by w1che
THE WHOLE THOUGHT SADDAM HAD WMD'S ..

Yes the thought was so scary that Bush couldn't sleep at night.

So he may do anything for a good nights sleep.