Useless Measures

[cleoeo]

We Wisconsinites sure are taking a lot of useless "feel good" anti-terrorism measures. The latest suggestion is to restrict private aircraft from flying within half a mile of the State Capitol. That'll stop 'em!
"OK Oshim, now crash the plane into the building"
"No no, we cannot do that. They have passed a law that we cannot fly within one half mile of the building. Curses! Foiled!"
Don't you suppose there was some kind of restricted airspace law against flying a commercial airliner at 300 feet over lower Manhattan and crashing it into a building?

[ogb]

It is quite right what you say, but you may not forget that in Manhattan the surprise effect was essential. I guess nobody before thought that someone would fly a plane into a skyscraper. If they found out today, they'd certainly get it down on a less populated area, but I am afraid that the reaction time is not enough to prevent such attacks (12 miles around power plants - how many seconds does it take for a plane to get there?). However, I don't think that the terrorism will be over soon, but I also don't believe that they will repeat their actions in the way they have done it before. The "feel-good" law you mentioned may make no sense, but in this case at least it also doesn't hurt anyone.

[CBranski]

Methinks that over inflated egos are at work in the State capitol, cleo. I mean really, I don't think anyone is sitting in an afghan cave plotting the removal of Governor McCallum. West Towne Mall is probably a more likely target any way.

The Milwaukee Common Council is also busy assuring its constituents that they are doing "everything possible and will respond in any emergency." Oh good. Local TV stations are also responding with hysterical cries of "ANTHRAX!" "ANTHRAX!"

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[amr]

Yep, people are getting nice and hysterical.

Couple of weeks ago I couldn't take my usual route home because of an anthrax scare in downtown Milwaukee. I had to take a twisty route thru the Third Ward just to avoid 2 blocks! (FYI, 3rd ward is entirley comprised of one-way and dead-end streets)

Let's see; 2 news heliocopters, at least 4 squad cars that I could count, fire department, haz mat teams, and a downtown traffic jam all because of ... (drumroll please)

... a towel in a box that fell off the back of somebody's truck!!!

What's really amusing is to think that just a couple months ago people would have been trying to run the box over or pick it up just in case anything valuble was inside.

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[cleoeo]

You will be relieved to know that the Sauk County Sherrif's Department has also announced that they are preparing contingency plans in case of terrorist attack. Perhaps they fear some terrorist will come set fire to our corn.

[ogb]

I guess, it is always difficult to find the right measure between overreaction and no reaction. Ridiculing the offices is one thing, but if something really happens, the people who insulted them for overreacting before are the first to complain that they didn't do anything against it. Be glad that you don't live in Berlin. About 550 buildings are secured there, the police isn't having enough personnel, they are driving ridiculous cars like Opel Corsa, VW Golf or even old GDR vehicles - and the first thing the new government wants to do is cutting their budget.

[CBranski]

Originally posted by cleoeo:
You will be relieved to know that the Sauk County Sherrif's Department has also announced that they are preparing contingency plans in case of terrorist attack. Perhaps they fear some terrorist will come set fire to our corn.

I am indeed relieved, cleo: Some friends and I are going to the Ho-Chunk Casino next weekend. We can breathe easier now... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[aclu14]

This is exactly how the terrorists want us to feel. Will taking Sweet-N-Low packets out of restaurants and banning powdered sugar donuts at the Capitol help anything? Not really.

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[Sjax]

Just my words aclu.
We are giving the terrorist exactly what they want

[ogb]

The problem is that all the FBI's, Secret Services, BND's or CIA's in the world have more information than we do. For sure the terrorists want us to change our way of life, but on the other hand they showed lacks in our safety. To a certain degree we have to improve the security standards, everything else would be negligent. The last ten years there were hardly any problems in our western world and now we have to learn that we are not perfectly safe as we thought to be. As I stated before, it is always the problem to find the right measure between right reaction and overreaction. Here in Germany the left parties even wanted to abandon the BND (=German secret service), but they were the ones who already warned in 1998 that the big problem in the next years will be the fundamentalists in the Islam. Nobody listened to them and nobody believed them although they caught several terrorists who planned big attacks.

[Idnew]

Well I've been expecting something in the mail for days now and it still hasn't showed up. I live in a small town and our mail goes to Jacksonville(a large city) first before coming here and I guess they are inspecting everything before it goes out which has really enforced the title "snail mail", but better that then letting something get through I guess. Especially since it seems to have started here in Florida.

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[cleoeo]

All first class mail should be handled carefully by the Federal Post Office. It should get to its destination with minimum delay. If this means irradiating 1st class mail, OK, irradiate it. It's letters.
I personally won't miss getting all the junk mail I do get. Raise the price of third class garbage mail, pay Postal Workers a decent wage, peal a Billion Dollars off the 20 billion dollar Airline Bailout and put it toward my mail delivery.

[cleoeo]

I think I heard this right on the radio this morning.
The State of Wisconsin, currently trying to figure out what to do about a 1 billion dollar defecit, just hired 5 new Capitol Police. They got the money from the Federal "homeland defence" initiative. The Capitol Police are the joke of law enforcement, basically highly paid meter maids that drive around looking for cars without State parking lot validation stickers that are parked in State parking lots. At a salary of $35,000 per year plus $20,000 per year benefits plus cars, uniforms, training, office space, etc. you can imagine what 5 additional Wisconsin meter maids will cost the Federal government.

[CBranski]

Cleo, I do hope that what you heard is a mere rumor as the Capitol Police wastes money not just in Madison, but Milwaukee as well. The Capitol Police has a detachment whose jurisdiction is ONE building in Downtown Milwaukee, the state office building even though the headquarters for the city police department AND the Sheriff's Department is only three blocks away!

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[aclu14]

Read "The Last Word" in this week's issue of Newsweek, about airline security

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[cleoeo]

Now the INS has sent student visa confirmations to the flight schools where the dead highjackers were enrolled. Visa confirmations for the dead highjackers! Why are we spending 100 billion dollars on "homeland security" measures like more Wisconsin Capitol Police when the INS tracking system is so obviously useless? By golly, Bin Laden better not park his Jeep in the Hill Farm State Office Building lot without a valid daily parking sticker, if he knows what's good for him!

[Phreakmeister]

'HI JACK’
(Greeting Launches Emergency Response at Airport)

The Associated Press

Waterford Township, Michigan, June 6 — A simple greeting to a man named Jack caused emergency preparations at a suburban Detroit airport.
“There was a guy on the plane named Jack, and someone walked in and said, ‘Hi, Jack,’” police Lt. Rick Crigger said. “The mike just happened to be open and the tower heard it.”
Thinking someone was highjacking the corporate jet Monday, Oakland International Airport tower officials called the Waterford police. The airport is about 30 miles northwest of Detroit.
“We called in a whole additional shift,” Crigger told The Oakland Press. “We called in the Oakland County Sheriff’s Department SWAT team.”
The FBI and other federal authorities also were called to prepare while tower officials called for the plane to return to the tower.
“The pilot got off the plane and we checked his identification to make sure he was who he said he was,” Police Chief John B. Dean said. “Then I boarded the plane to make sure everything was OK.”
The false alarm proved the emergency system worked, Dean said. “I like false alarms like that,” Dean said. “They are good for training purposes. Nobody was hurt and they were just delayed a few minutes.”
Once it was over, they were also able to laugh about it. “They’ll probably pass a rule that no one named Jack can ever be hired in aviation again,” said Waterford Capt. Chuck Jehle.

Talking about a nice hijack http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[This message has been edited by Phreakmeister (edited March 16, 2002).]