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Phreakmeister
March 29th, 2002, 06:51 PM
God, It's Great To Be American!
by Heather Wokusch

There's nothing like being in the safe hands of the Bush administration.
I mean, how embarrassing for those poor people in Zimbabwe, dealing with their rigged presidential election. Imagine the shame of knowing opposition voters had been systematically disenfranchised, and that the Supreme Court had stepped in to support a specific presidential candidate. That could never happen here! We should go in and show those people how real democracy works.

And what's with the British parliament anyway! Last week, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw was pummeled about his unquestioning support for Bush policies. Fellow MPs named Israel (rather than Iraq) as a violent Middle East country deserving an arms embargo, and asked Straw why the UK is threatening to send soldiers to Baghdad, but not Jerusalem. In grueling parliamentary sessions, Straw was asked why he supports what others see as the simplistic, gun-toting policy of the US; his response of, "I have not yet met members of the Bush administration who are gung-ho" was met with jeers.

None of that kind of political dissent in the US government! Forget Congress' constitutional duty to oversee the US executive branch - since September 11th, Democrats have been so terrified of seeming unpatriotic that they've all but rolled over and played dead. Even minor opposition, such as Senate majority leader Tom Daschle's tentative questioning whether the war should really be broadened, is dealt with swiftly and brutally by the administration: Congressman Tom Davis accused Daschle of aiding the enemy, and the House majority whip, Tom DeLay, referred to Daschle's comments as disgusting.

Looks like it's back to Bush's "you're with us or with the enemy" speech: what's clear now though is that "us" means the Bush administration, and not necessarily the US government or ordinary citizens.

So our fearless leader blasts the "axis of evil" countries for promoting weapons of mass destruction, then in the next breath threatens the use of nuclear weapons on countries the US dislikes. "We are at war to keep the peace," as Bush says. He gets "hot" at deficiencies in the INS system that allowed 2 hijackers to receive visas, but doesn't seem to mind the hundreds of US residents rounded up post September 11, shackled and still languishing in jails despite not having been charged with any specific crime other than looking Middle Eastern.

Meanwhile, the law of the land is determined by a man who reportedly sees calico cats as a sign of the devil. US Attorney General John Ashcroft is charged with protecting fundamental rights such as freedom of religion, but lately has taken to publicly singing self-penned lyrics such as "Only God, no other king," when he's not holding prayer meetings at the department of justice.

Yep, it sure is nice to be in safe US government hands. But as the president himself has said, "There ought to be limits to freedom." Too much questioning of administration policies just can't be right in times like these because Americans (presumably regardless of religious affiliation) should bow their "heads in humility before our Heavenly Father."

I guess it's just a coincidence that so often what our Heavenly Father wants seems to echo US military policy.

So how best to be a good US citizen in "times like these"? Raising our bowed heads to question the credentials of those professing to represent divine truth would be a start. Owning our voices is more in keeping with the foundations our country was built on than tolerating this obsequious game of mincing words and hiding behind flags


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ungua
April 5th, 2002, 04:50 AM
about speeches: anyone remembers nixon's speech on the war on vietnam? he said it'd be a quite »popular« decision to end the war immediately but he hoped for the big and »silent majority« that wants the us to leave vietnam as winners - facing the large anti-war-demonstrations...
can anyone see a big movement against the »war on terror« (whatsoever)?

regards,
ungua

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weldordave
April 6th, 2002, 06:48 AM
Wow Phreak, more rewritten text. Your originality amazes me. Maybe I should start typing in text from Time or Newsweek or The Cub Scout Republic or............

Phreakmeister
April 6th, 2002, 09:46 AM
Sure, go ahead, if it's newsworthy or relevant to a certain discussion, be my guest

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Enforcer
April 6th, 2002, 09:55 AM
yeah dave please...
not everyone reads everything, so if freak shows those of us who haven't read it what was written, it's only convenient

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SQUARE RULES!!!!!

WEIRD AL YANCOVIC RULES!!!

WHAT WOULD LIFE BE WITHOUT RPG's?????

RPG-LESS OF COURSE...WE CAN'T HAVE THAT...

Sjax
April 7th, 2002, 07:14 AM
Dave, if Phreaks copied texts annoy you so much, why dont you just ignore them? Nobody forces you to read them (I hope).

Enforcer
April 7th, 2002, 11:02 AM
*gets out his uzi*
read it or DIE, poeple!

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SQUARE RULES!!!!!

WEIRD AL YANCOVIC RULES!!!

WHAT WOULD LIFE BE WITHOUT RPG's?????

RPG-LESS OF COURSE...WE CAN'T HAVE THAT...

Dizbuster
May 30th, 2002, 06:32 PM
If you are going to post something, post a link or at least a description of where the article or quote comes from, otherwise, it is borderline plagarism.

in Example:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2016000/2016848.stm

European 'spying' laws savaged


Net users could come under increasing scrutiny

Civil liberty groups have condemned a European Parliament decision to let law enforcers spy on phone and net users.
They also sharply criticised the parliament's decision to force phone companies and net service providers to keep for years logs of what customers are doing.

The parliament said the measures were necessary following the 11 September attacks to safeguard national security.

But some MPs said the decision handed too much power to the state at the expense of individual privacy and liberty.

Terror fight

The parliament voted to adopt the new data protection and privacy rules on Thursday.

Once adopted, national governments will be forced to draw up laws to put the directive into practice.

Before the vote, a coalition of 40 civil liberty groups issued a joint statement warning that some of the proposed amendments could have "disastrous consequences for the most sensitive and confidential types of personal data".



With today's vote the European Parliament supports the project of a surveillance union

Ilka Schroeder, MEP
One of the most contentious amendments called for police forces to be given the power to make net service and phone companies keep extensive logs of what their customers are doing.

Some governments were calling for such powers, claiming that they would prove useful in the fight against terrorism.

Currently net service providers and telecommunications firms only keep logs of customer activity while they generate bills. Under the new laws, the firms could be asked to keep information indefinitely.

Civil liberty groups fear that police forces will be tempted to use the collected information as a database they can trawl through for suspicious activity - rather than acting on a case-by-case basis as they do now.


Some fear state surveillance is growing

In the UK, civil liberty groups have warned that the controversial Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act already gives law enforcement agencies sweeping powers to snoop on net users.

The author of the bill, Italian independent Marco Cappato, criticised the inclusion of the data retention amendment.

"This amounts to a large amount of restriction on privacy and increases the powers of the state," said Mr Cappato.

Other MEPs were more scathing.

"With today's vote the European Parliament supports the project of a surveillance union," said Ilka Schroeder, MEP and shadow rapporteur of the United European Left Group.

She said not even the secret police of the former East Germany had enjoyed the power to snoop that this directive gave to law enforcement agencies.

Spam stopped

The wide-ranging directive also contains new rules on the sending of unsolicited commercial e-mail and the use of net-based data files or "cookies".

Now firms will only be able to send out e-mail adverts if people agree in advance that they want to receive them. The directive effectively bans the use of sending of unsolicited e-mail or spam.

Early drafts of the directive worried net advertisers because they threatened to impose the same conditions on the use of internet cookies.

Many websites use these small data files to identify repeat visitors, maintain records of what someone wants to buy while they are at the site and to tailor what visitors see.

Angela Mills-Wade, spokeswoman for the Interactive Advertising Bureau, welcomed the decision by the parliament on cookies.

"They realised it was disproportionate to impose such stiff requirements and it was much better to have something more practical," she said.

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See, not all that hard eh?

weldordave
June 1st, 2002, 08:44 AM
Hmmm. Guess the Euros here are sooo busy watching the US that they "can't see the forest through the trees". We'd all better watch it or the US might become soooo regulated that our bartenders won't even be able to fill a glass of beer above a silly line on the side of the glass. Oh wait, maybe some CULTURES are that regulated.................

Andy
June 1st, 2002, 09:00 AM
I really enjoy the articles posted on this forum. People pick out some insightful articles that highlight issues which I may not be aware of. Sometimes, people on this board just start talking about an issue with which I am not familiar -- a relevant article makes it a whole lot easier to get into the discussion.

However, lets make it a habit to post our own original recap of the article on the forum, and provide a link to the original. Hopefully we can satisfy everyone that way.

aclu14
June 2nd, 2002, 02:20 PM
www.whatreallyhappened.com

:clap

weldordave
June 11th, 2002, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Andy
I really enjoy the articles posted on this forum. People pick out some insightful articles that highlight issues which I may not be aware of. Sometimes, people on this board just start talking about an issue with which I am not familiar -- a relevant article makes it a whole lot easier to get into the discussion.

However, lets make it a habit to post our own original recap of the article on the forum, and provide a link to the original.
Hopefully we can satisfy everyone that way.
What!? You mean think for ourselves?! "What he11 hath God Wrought?" An AMERICAN ideal that is hard to grasp.

aclu14
June 13th, 2002, 09:49 AM
This thread is simply an argument with Dave about how unoriginal everyone is.

Why don't YOU show us some originality, huh, Dave?

weldordave
June 16th, 2002, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by aclu14
This thread is simply an argument with Dave about how unoriginal everyone is.



hy don't YOU show us some originality, huh, Dave? I think ALL my posts are original and not PLAGERIZED. What do you think?

Sjax
June 16th, 2002, 09:12 AM
Well Dave, since you ask. Please dont take this the wrong way, but many of your posts kind of look like each other. They have two central themes: Defending everything that is american, and attacking everything that is european. You have pointed out that Denmark (and other european countries) has no "peacekeeping" army like a million times, and the "you-would-all-be-speaking-german-if-it-wasnt-for-us"-speech is also quite common in your posts.

I know that you can say the same thing about a couple of us european people (maybe especially Phreak and myself), but i think there is a difference. I dont think that we keep discusing the same things over and over again, like you have a tendency to do. At least a like to believe that we cover more different aspects of the subject of US vs. Europe.

Again: Please dont take this the wrong way. I really enjoy discussing these things with you, but since you asked what we thought, I had to say this.

weldordave
June 19th, 2002, 04:02 AM
Right on. I hear ya!:) Very diplomatic, I might ad.

aclu14
June 19th, 2002, 11:14 PM
And then there are those of us that ally ourselves with the Europeans in certain threads on certain topics because certain people like to say certain things that certainly piss off those who don't drape themselves in the stars and stripes.

weldordave
June 21st, 2002, 03:54 AM
Certainally certain, certainally.:)