Saudi oil and our gas

[DEAD ZONE]

So ,who buys the most terrorist goil?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27456

"Based on 2001 figures, Chevron Corp. is easily Saudi's biggest U.S.-based customer. The energy giant, based in San Francisco, operates about 8,000 gas stations in 25 states.

Houston-based Marathon Ashland Petro LLC ranks as Saudi's second-largest American customer. It operates more than 2,069 convenience stories that also sell gas. The chain – Speedway SuperAmerica, or SSA – is based in Enon, Ohio.

Exxon Co. USA, along with its partner Mobil Oil Corp., also rank among the biggest buyers of Saudi crude.

U.S. gas retailers buying the least amount of Saudi crude, meanwhile, include: Phillips 66, Conoco Inc. and Diamond Shamrock Refining and Marketing, Energy data show."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27467

I think I will frequent diamond shamrock and phillips much more now.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/data/summary.html
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/cli.html

[aclu14]

yup we're doing ourselves in
you know all those new anti-drug ads that say "i bought some columbian weed and helped shoot down twenty people. i support terrorism.'
well its the feds and the corperations who are helping shoot down those twenty people

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[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by aclu14:
yup we're doing ourselves in
you know all those new anti-drug ads that say "i bought some columbian weed and helped shoot down twenty people. i support terrorism.'
well its the feds and the corperations who are helping shoot down those twenty people


No argument from me.

[cleoeo]

Um, the Saudi government disowns Bin Laden and the Al Queda. Saudi Arabia is not on our terrorist government list. Buying Saudi oil is a stabalizing influence in world politics.

[weldordave]

Originally posted by aclu14
yup we're doing ourselves in
you know all those new anti-drug ads that say "i bought some columbian weed and helped shoot down twenty people. i support terrorism.'
well its the feds and the corperations who are helping shoot down those twenty people

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Give the little girl a cuppie doll! She hit the nail on the head! They (the Fedaralis) know it, but want YOU to feel guilty. There's hope for you yet, aclu.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by cleoeo
Um, the Saudi government disowns Bin Laden and the Al Queda. Saudi Arabia is not on our terrorist government list. Buying Saudi oil is a stabalizing influence in world politics. Talk is cheap.actions speek louder.
Just because they are not on the list does not mean they do not supply or aid terrorist groups.They have been paying the families of suicide bombers and "some private Saudi money has been funneled in the past to Palestinian groups, such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad, which carry out many of the suicide attacks."
"Saudi Arabia has categorically denied freezing of any bank accounts, either of individuals or corporate entities, on suspicion of money laundering or terrorist financing since the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States," the Arab News reports.
http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=15249

I could other such so called "friendly actions" by our so called friends.
Buying saudi oil finances terrorist attacks on us.

"Enemies of the United States are spreading on the Internet a gruesome piece of propaganda," CBS News reports. "It is a videotape of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, who was kidnapped and murdered earlier this year in Pakistan. And it is being used by terrorists to recruit new soldiers for the cause." The video includes Arabic subtitles:

"The translation is in Arabic because the audience is Arabic," says Ali al-Ahmed, a dissident Saudi Arabian journalist, who found it on the Web a few days ago. "The audience for this Web site are young Saudis, college students, high school students and unemployed Saudis," he says. . . .

What is perhaps most shocking is that some viewers do not find it repulsive. "The first place where they had it on most of the people who commented on the tape, they said, 'I wish I was there. I wish I had done it,' " says al-Ahmed.
This is not a minority view amoung saudi`s.Saudi Arabia, whence came 15 of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers.

"Saudis familiar with the thinking behind the anti-American hatred of groups like Al-Qaeda, say [future] attacks on the US are not inevitable," the Christian Science Monitor reports. It's simple, say these Saudis; all America has to do is appease the terrorists! "These attacks are going to continue against the US again and again, until America wakes up to the problem of siding with Israel," says an unnamed source the Monitor describes as a "computer specialist" and "a Saudi veteran of the war in Afghanistan in the 1980s, who is familiar with the thinking of militants today, but did not participate in Afghanistan in the 1990s."
http://csmonitor.com/2002/0523/p07s02-wome.html
Anyway,you get the idea.

[DEAD ZONE]

"A recent poll conducted by Saudi intelligence and reported by the New York Times showed 95 percent of Saudis sympathetic to bin Laden.

It's no wonder then that the Saudis impeded
investigations into the Riyadh and Khobar Towers bombings that killed 23 Americans in 1995 and 1996. They refused to disclose to Federal Aviation Agency officials who was arriving in the United States from foreign flights. In 1996, they had a chance to take bin Laden into custody from the Sudanese and didn't accept the offer. They refused to allow the U.S. to take Hezbollah's Imad Mughniyah, responsible for the bombing of Marine barracks in Beirut."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27834

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by cleoeo
Um, the Saudi government disowns Bin Laden and the Al Queda. Saudi Arabia is not on our terrorist government list. Buying Saudi oil is a stabalizing influence in world politics.

Dream on. The government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia were forced to make a gesture towards the US, so they took the Saudi citizenship from Bin Laden. However, Bin Laden gets almost all of his support from Saudi foundations, some of which are even administered by the royal family of Saudi Arabia. Noone wants to see or investigate it, however, because that would endanger "our" oil.
Saudi is not on the terrorist government list indeed, but that's not because it has no place there, it's because of economic and political reasons.

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister


Dream on. The government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia were forced to make a gesture towards the US, so they took the Saudi citizenship from Bin Laden. However, Bin Laden gets almost all of his support from Saudi foundations, some of which are even administered by the royal family of Saudi Arabia. Noone wants to see or investigate it, however, because that would endanger "our" oil.
Saudi is not on the terrorist government list indeed, but that's not because it has no place there, it's because of economic and political reasons.

Actually,they have made the list:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29014

WASHINGTON ? Saudi Arabia was "shocked" to learn the Justice Department has added Saudi to a list of terrorist-sponsoring countries subject to immigration restrictions, a spokesman for the royal government told WorldNetDaily yesterday.

According to a highly sensitive four-page Justice memo (page 1[http://209.17.95.115/images2/inspage1.jpg], page 2,[http://209.17.95.115/images2/inspage2.jpg] page 3,[http://209.17.95.115/images2/inspage3.jpg] page 4[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/inspage4.jpg]
Attorney General John Ashcroft has authorized U.S. immigration inspectors to begin fingerprinting, photographing and tracking Saudi nationals who enter the U.S. on visas.

[ILENSER]

added Saudi to a list of terrorist sponsoring countries

About damn time.

Most of the highjackers were Saudis.
A freak chance?
I Don't ****ing Think so !!!!!

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE
"Based on 2001 figures, Chevron Corp. is easily Saudi's biggest U.S.-based customer. The energy giant, based in San Francisco, operates about 8,000 gas stations in 25 states.

And who has been the CEO of Chevron for the past decade? Condoleezza Rice...

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister


And who has been the CEO of Chevron for the past decade? Condoleezza Rice...

And do you fill your tank or have you with the above makes of gas?

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE


And do you fill your tank or have you with the above makes of gas?

Noup. Not me. (also because Chevron doesn't operate here, which makes it rather impossible to fill up with Chevron)

[DEAD ZONE]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister


Noup. Not me. (also because Chevron doesn't operate here, which makes it rather impossible to fill up with Chevron)

What aBout the others?Exxon,texaco ect.

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by DEAD ZONE
What aBout the others?Exxon,texaco ect.

If I fill up my tank, it's at Shell. Why? Dunno. Perhaps because there's a Shell station near my home. And because you used to get mints for every time you fill up there (dunno what mints have to do with petrol). Can't think of any specific reason though.

Btw, everything the Taleban is accused of doing in Afghanistan, the Saudi's do too. There's not one spec of difference between the Taleban and the Saudi regime. But how often has Saudi Arabia been attacked for that?

[DEAD ZONE]

I am a diamond shamrock dude myself,if not only because out of about every 10 gallons of gas sold,shell owns{by itself or through a subsidiary} about 6 of those gallons.Some of those subs get saudi juice.

And the saudis are no better,i agree.

BY JAMES TARANTO
Friday, July 12, 2002 1:37 p.m. EDT
Our Friends the Saudis
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/12/international/middleeast/12SAUD.html
"Prompted by the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States, a cautious debate is taking place in
Saudi Arabia's closed society over intolerance toward non-Muslims and attitudes toward the West
that are now viewed by some as inspiring unacceptable violence," the New York Times reports.
Sadly, though, most of the article doesn't live up to the promise of the lead paragraph, instead
providing ample evidence that the Saudis haven't given up their anti-Western Wahhabi horse:

Bookshops in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, for example, sell a 1,265-page souvenir tome
that is a kind of "greatest hits" of fatwas on modern life. It is strewn with rulings on shunning
non-Muslims: don't smile at them, don't wish them well on their holidays, don't address them as
"friend."

A fatwa from Sheik Muhammad bin Othaimeen, whose funeral last year attracted hundreds of
thousands of mourners, tackles whether good Muslims can live in infidel lands. The faithful who
must live abroad should "harbor enmity and hatred for the infidels and refrain from taking them
as friends," it reads in part.

Saudis in general, and senior princes in particular, reject the notion that this kind of teaching
helps spawns terrorists.

"Well, of course I hate you because you are Christian, but that doesn't mean I want to kill you,"
a professor of Islamic law in Riyadh explains to a visiting reporter.

Further evidence of Saudi benightedess can be found in the pages of the English-language Arab
News,
http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=16666

which earlier this week carried an article by Khaled Al-Sulaiman, translated from the
Arabic paper Okaz, titled "Defuse the Time Bomb in Makkah [Mecca]." It is a baldly racist rant:


The bomb I am speaking of, for those who want to know, is the large number of Africans in the
city; they are there illegally and as they encroach on the city and its facilities, they have
become a public menace. . . . They multiply like rabbits and every one of their children becomes
no more than another tool for making money. . . . Like weeds in the soil of rich farmland, they
threaten to engulf everything and take over.

Arab News editor in chief Khaled Al-Maeena does gently rebuke Al-Sulaiman: "I read your articles
from time to time and am always amazed at your language as well as your choice of words. But this
time, I feel, most strongly, you have gone too far."

Al-Maeena's paper, however, also picks up a statement from one Jim Giles, a fringe congressional
candidate in Mississippi whose central campaign plank is that America should stop supporting
Israel:

In the present circumstances, one result of Yankee Jew media dominance threatens the lives of US
citizens. The $10 million a day the US gives Israel to slaughter Palestinians, which fuels Arab
anger and thirst for revenge.

How much longer will the stupidity continue? How much more mileage will the Jews get out of the
Holocaust? How many body bags must we stock to deal with the next installment of the cost of
Zionism?

Interesting that Giles complains about Jews getting "mileage" out of the Holocaust, when he is
still trying to get mileage out of the Civil War. His Web site is called RebelArmy.com and
prominently displays a close-up of the Confederate battle flag.