Dippy's behaviour

[Serendipity]

I've been very angry in the last few days, I'm sure most of you know why. I have aggressively dealt with some of the newbies, and for the most part I didn't enjoy it. I have had some criticism, to which I have responded as honestly and frankly as possible, and I have had some praise, which I accept as a sign that someone understands why I'm behaving like this. I have been neglectful and rude to regular members, while paying a lot of "attention" to some newbies. I am sorry if I've upset anyone.

I now wish to draw a line under all that, and just get on with enjoying the board.

If you want to discuss this, this is the place.

[Dingbat]

You are acting acceptibly...nothing wrong with it IMO.

[Live.Org]

When you ride on a bus, it doesn't matter what kind of driver you are, but who is behind the wheel when you get on. If he is reckless and doesn't mind running down others to get where he is going, do you stay on, or get off and find another that may be going in the same direction?

If you stay on long enough, you may pick up some of his bad driving habits so that when it is your turn to drive, you also cut others off, or even run them down.

Eventually, you will crash and burn yourself like the first driver certainly will.

Get off the bus.

[RockBottomDLux]

I voted admirable. Why? I loved the show your true intellect in full force.

Wonderful job! :clap :) :clap

[Dingbat]

Live.org, good, uh, moral story thing.

Here's one...never spit towards the wind.

[aclu14]

Absolutely :clap :clap :clap Dammit, you're a mod, aren't ya??

[Dingbat]

aclu14,
Who me? Tell me, what does it take to become one?

[aclu14]

No, Dippy.

[weldordave]

Chin-up,dippy, the world is a better place with you on it!:wave

[Dingbat]

Yes, a very interesting place. I guess that means we keep our enemies, rivals, different ideas/believes/sociaties, war, guns...etc because it wouldn't be the same without them right? Hehehe, I'm surprise how many of status quo people are here. It should be interesting seeing how we all relate.

[Live.Org]

I think we've seen enough of the how, now it's time to deliver on the what.

[Dingbat]

They say I drive people nuts just because I don't prove, give examples, or back up my opinions...

Anyhow, this amuses me. How do you know it's the time? You make up the rules? Or do you not want the what, because you do not wish to hear it in fear of what it might bring (or prove better yet...)?

I do enjoy talking with you Live.Org. Your way of talking...kind of poetic and calm..including the nice little stories you throw in now and then which is very interesting I must admit :) .

[Live.Org]

Thanks, I appreciate that.

I'm not driven nuts, I just don't find any value in using terms like "status quo" and other labels. For example, if we all hope to wake up in the morning, aren't we all part of the "status quo" in that regard? Or, if some just don't agree with you, are they "status quo" thinkers, even though they may still desire change, but through different methods than the ones you propose? Of course not.

More than anything, such tactics only display an attempt to muddy the waters, rather than clear them up through debate and reason. The "how" is this condition, the "what" is any further material you present to back up your claims.

For example, there may be some good issues raised by the Order, but most of the solutions are so heavy-handed that they would not be accepted by those who love freedom. If the promise of more freedom results in a true loss of freedom, then it is already a broken promise and a contradiction. Not logical.

So rather than meeting that with an opinion, you might explain how a loss of freedom can result in more freedom. If it excludes any one particular group, I also want to know exactly why. Not something like "priests have no logic" but perhaps why you think that religion, music, movies, or any other external factor is to blame for behaviorial ills. Or, if you agree that adults should be responsible for their own actions, regardless of what goes on around them or what belief system they happen to follow.

Apply that standard to most anything else and I bet that you would be more successful in convincing others, not just yourself, that your ideas are worth a closer look. Just a matter of being persuasive, rather than turning your audience off immediately to what could have been presented in a more eloquent and objective manner.

[kontulib]

Between accetable and admirable. Good work dippy. Continue on same way! :clap :clap :wave

[Serendipity]

As I said elsewhere:

This message board is called "Dumb Laws", not "Illuminati Order". They have their own board, with perhaps their own standards of behaviour. Certainly their collective behaviour initially was not of the kind that is acceptable here, and I think it's understandable that it takes a little time to sort out and identify their individual behaviour.

The Dumb Laws site has had a lot of publicity in the US media over the last few days, which the young Illuminati tried to hijack by placing a lot of Illuminati-related spam on this board. That too is unacceptable. If people, Illuminati or otherwise, want to discuss political ideas, old, new, left, right, whatever, that's fine - if it's done the appropriate way in the appropriate forum. I am now satisfied that everyone is clear on this.

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by RockBottomDLux
I voted admirable. Why? I loved the show your true intellect in full force.

Wonderful job! :clap :) :clap Thanks, Rock. :) I'm not voting, I just want to know what people think. If the majority of the votes are around the middle of the poll, I'll be more than happy. I don't like being heavy-handed, but it seemed to me that a firm approach would be best, rather than have the board fill up with topics and attitudes that are not in the Dumb Laws spirit. It was obvious what most regulars and other newbies thought.

If I can blow my own trumpet for a moment, ;) I have privately studied esoteric European history, which is how come I know about the original Illuminati, founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt. The liklihood of this current Order having anything to do with the original is zilch, but I understand several groups have taken on the name over the years. I also studied Logic at university, so it didn't take long to spot that there was little logic about the Illuminati's arguments here. I can play the smart card :D but I just wish I hadn't got so angry.

[Serendipity]

:) Live.Org and Dingbat: Your discussion here has nothing to do with the topic. Please start a new topic if you want to carry on. Thank you. :)

[paulgro]

Dippy, this isn't necessary. Your job as a mod is to keep the peace and not kiss up to anyone that tries to destroy it. You've done both that's all that matters. I will not vote, no need to...

[aclu14]

Thus the point.

[Dingbat]

The point is that you don't seem so organised yourselves...

[Serendipity]

Dingbat, the point is that your opinion on how this board is run just doesn't matter much around here.

The Illuminati speak of tolerance. A less tolerant board than this one would have banned all the young Illuminati and deleted all their posts, just because they came here in a bunch and tried to take over. I still might sign up at the Illuminati board and ask why the hell they can't keep their house in order.

Dingbat, you are living on borrowed time. Other members have befriended you and want to talk with you, it is for their sake that you have not yet been banned. If you don't value your membership of this board, just say so and it will be terminated.

Paul: I was getting some complaints, so I felt I should give a good account of myself to the board. This was an exceptional circumstance, and I used exceptional measures.

[Dingbat]

Dingbat, the point is that your opinion on how this board is run just doesn't matter much around here.
Oh, but your opinions on the Illuminati do huh? I could say the same to you, that yours don't matter to me...

The Illuminati speak of tolerance.
I thought they where agianst religion and the such... Tolerance is a status quo thing my friend, that is why you and the religious can get along with your ideas quite well.

Dingbat, you are living on borrowed time. Other members have befriended you and want to talk with you, it is for their sake that you have not yet been banned. If you don't value your membership of this board, just say so and it will be terminated.
All time is borrowed...and I respect that I havn't been banned yet. I have done nothing wrong... If stating my opinions is wrong then this isn't a very friendly forum. I'm also think that perhaps you are just arguing to win, because losing for you would be disaster. All I have been doing if you havn't noticed is answering your threads. That's it, and you have to keep resolving into more questions for me to answere. Do you expect me to not be able to answer a question....thus proving me wrong? If that ever did happen, I bet it would be that 1 mesily little questions compared to all the other's I've answered back... but seriously, where did you think you where going?

[Live.Org]

See Dingbat Debates! thread for my response.

[Idnew]

Dippy I have emailed you my views so won't repeat them here.

WARNING TO ALL If this topic goes back to Dingbat which it looks like is headed that way all such postings will be deleted including yours Dip if you reply to them with more debate! Follow Live's example

[Serendipity]

Anyway, I didn't want this to be a long discussion, I just wanted to be clear on what I did and why, and make sure the board is happy with it. The votes indicate overall approval with some notes of discontent, which is about what I feel about it. Thank you for voting. This topic is now closed.