sex laws wronge or right????????????

what do you all think of the fact that if you are over 18 you cant have sex with younger people but yet a 55 year old canmarrie a f****n 25 year old what is the diff now i could understand if it was a 18 year old and a 12 year old but a 20 year old and 15 year old is not that bad. But even if you dont agree with that then at least let me say this if a girl of any age over at least 14 tells a guy she wans to have sex with him he should not be charged with any kind of RAPE!!!!!!!!!! I love the company of any type of older guy they are smarter, have range, and are much better in bed well if you would like you can write me at well bye
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[This message has been edited by paulgro (edited August 14, 2001).]

[cleoeo]

I'm amazed by the number of older men that fall for sting operations where the police pose as underage girls interested in older men, post a few invitations on the web, and wait for the responses and offers to meet to roll in.

Hehe, trust me, when I'm 80, the youngin's better run. http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Ada_Doom]

Planning on being a dirty old man Evil? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/wink.gif Welcome!

You have to set an age limit somewhere and stick to it otherwise too many loopholes and grey areas develop, and paedophilia does need to be got rid of. (No, I'm not saying that sleeping with someone under 16 is paedophila necessarily, but that is the basic reason or the age of consent.)

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how can you all think of this as some type of joke i really dont i have dated many older guys and i am the one that is worried about the fact they can go to jail! they dont think they will get cought but know what i bet all the guys in jail thought the same thing. You should not have to sit in jail for 2-40 years when you both seem to think having sex is a good idea drunk or not you said yes that should not count as RAPE!!!!!

Drunk or not, in the law's eye, you are not of legal age to give consent.

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[Serendipity]

To quote Charles Dickens, "The Law is an Ass..."

thanks serendipity

[Idnew]

Well at 14 you might think your grown or 15 or 16 but your not and a girl that young should be thinking of graduating and not having sex with older men for whatever reason that usually isn't going to be in that girls best interest anyway. At least when you turn 18 I would think a little sense was beginning to come into play. I'm beginning to think they should raise it even higher the way some of these young adults act anymore. A guy over 18 should have better sense then to even be thinking about sex with someone so young. What's the difference you say when you do get older and your say 10 or more years younger than a guy? Well at least when your over 21 it used to be you were supposed to be mature enough to make sensible decisions and if that meant going with an older person then at least no one can accuse the guy of taking advantage of an immature teenager for his sexual pleasure and warped mind. Any man over the age of 25 that goes to bed with a girl under the age of 18 then there is something wrong with that man IMO. Under 25... well they still think their teens.

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Ditto what Idnew and Wiplash said...

yes, I admit older men (like 25 or 26 http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Ive never been with one older, lol)
when your young are more experienced but it's the GUY who shouldn't be with a girl so young.
Lets face it most young girls can't make up their minds on anything, they LOVE this guy and LOVE this other guy and next thing you know they have loved every guy thats cute!

A MAN usuallywill NOT have anything in common with a young girl except sex..sadly. A man usually prefers a woman who is wise to the world,is ready to settle down ect.

... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gifI wouldnt worry too much about sleeping with older men at that age...theirs more important things like school...


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The whole police sting to find rapist schemes are very creepy. First that policewomen are willing to do that and that the police person says yes. When rapist are searching maybe they just need someone to say no and that makes them go away.... http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

I'm posting to an old thread, but this is something that was important to me, and is important to a few friends of mine.

The Statuatory Rape laws are incredibly short sighted, generalized, and can be applied in a broad spectrum.

In many states, if both guy and girl are 17 they are allowed to have sex. The instant one of them turns 18, they are now a criminal if/when they have sex again. Sometimes this legal age of consent is 18 (CA and OR), sometimes 16 (WA, NV). The relative difference in ages does not matter, only the age of consent. Oregon recently instituted laws that reduce the penalty if the couple is less than 3 years age difference.

The laws can also be very general, prohibiting any form of contact (including holding hands) or stating illegal contact to be "offensive contact" without any legal or stated definition.

Furthermore, anyone convicted under these laws becomes a "child molestor" subject to the same restrictions on travel, self-subjugated slander (billboard/poster neighborhood notification) and penalties (employment, etc) of a forced rape child molestor.

Furthermore, there have been many cases of the "double standard" where these laws are only enforced when the minor is a female.

Now I don't condone pedophilia in any way, but to ruin a guy's life because he turned 18 (or 16) before his girlfriend is more than a little harsh.

As for "relative maturity levels" of 14 year olds... they are as mature as the demands placed upon them. 10 year olds are fighting and winning wars. Historically women were married at first menarche in many cultures. In France (where my step brother and step sister live) maturity is much slower in some respects, because the demands imposed upon them are different.

Ironically, many people have more sex in high school than out of school. (assuming they don't go to college...)

Lastly, my personal experience is that most women over the age of 20 are married, divorced and/or have children. Many women over 18 are screwed up from previous boyfriend, many have experimented with drugs, and most behave in unhealthy ways based on previous experiences.

Of course, many psychologists today say that the origins of those unhealthy patterns with the opposite sex begin by observing and being subjected to unhealthy behaviors by their parents.

So which is more dangerous? a healthy relationship with an older person or having babyboomer parents going through midlife crisis and still haven't figured out how to listen to and talk with their spouse? I'm glazing a bunch of issues and feel the need to clarify/defend a lot of what I have said before making it Politically Correct but this is too long of a post already http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[jettmotto]

I find it almost unbelievelbe that a 12 yr. old can buy condoms but they can't consent to sex. But I understand that the "law" knows they will do it anyways so they let them buy the condoms so at least they are having safe sex. Here is the question of the hour though, If they are old enough to buy the condoms, and can get "it" up, (don't know how else to put it) why does someone else get a charge of rape or statutory rape?? I know the age thing to but why charge someone else when they "the man" make everything avalible to the minors makes no sense!!

[little_army_babe]

Well what about all the "little" girls out there that are allowed to wear make-up at the age of 12 to make them look older? And when they are 14 and make themselves look 18 and lie to an older man and tell them that they're old enough should it still be considered "rape"? Should he ask for ID?

[aclu14]

The law is a loophole.

[Phreakmeister]

I personally am an adult (well, physically I am). If I have sex with someone who is 18 years and 1 day old, there is no problem. If I have sex with someone who is 17 years and 364 days, I'm a rapist. In what way is someone who is 18 years and 1 day old more mature than someone who is 17 years and 364 days old? Do those 2 days make such a difference?

Being ready for sex is a mental issue, not a physical issue. Some people are completely ready for it at age 14, and others aren't ready for it at age 20. I know examples of both. We shouldn't hang on to the age issue that much.

[Sephirstein]

But most of you are ****ing Americans. Everything is age to you people. Ugh! ****ing pathetic! If a girl lies about her age, no man should be found liable. Anyone who believe otherwise is a ****ing Nazi-Stalinist-fundie.

[paulgro]

You can get your point across without trying to use 4 letter words...

[jettmotto]

probly....:(

[Phreakmeister]

I just saw a t-shirt saying: "FU©K YOU, YOU FU©KING FU©K" :p :D

[kontulib]

Here the age of consent is 16...and I think it is quite reasonable age limit.

[kontulib]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister
I just saw a t-shirt saying: "FU©K YOU, YOU FU©KING FU©K" :p :D

Off Topic

Couple of months ago I saw t-shirt saying: "Thanks for god I´m born to white"

Well, that guy propably was a skinhead. I was only wondering how he have courage to walk on public places alone with t-shirt like that...