Does your state or city have really dumb beer laws?

Traveling around the country, I've run into some doozies.

CT: No liquor sold after 8 pm, and no beer sales in supermarket after that hour.

GA: No beer with more than six percent alcohol can be sold. Why extra-strength beer is banned but wine can be sold defies my imagination.

PA: You can't buy less than a case of beer except at a bar, which charges up the wazoo for it.

Do you live in a place that has laws this silly?

[Sjax]

In Denmark you cant buy any alcohol after 8 pm in shops.
That law is made to protect the bars and restaurants but it is very annoying.

[CBranski]

Some dumb Wisconsin booze laws:

In many counties, you can't get carry outs past 9 PM. The ostensible reasoning in Milwaukee County at least is that such a law helps to reduce "gang activity." Oh sure.

A drinking age of 21, (actually a federal initiative pushed on the states) in a state where 70% of the adults drink.

At supermarket checkouts, the clerk cannot run beer across the scanner if he/she is under the age of 18-another checker has to leave their post to perform this task. Naturally, this can be irritating when the lines are long. They are allowed however to put the booze in a bag or put it back in your cart.

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[paulgro]

New Jersey package good stores have to be closed by 10:00 PM but you can buy package goods at a bar.
Can't by Beer at a grocery store.

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In virginia, you can't buy beer after midnight however the bars don't close until 2 am. Guess they'd rather you drive home drunk than stay at home and drink? http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/confused.gif Also, the ABC stores close at 7 pm and aren't open at all on Sundays. And Sunday was always my drinking day! http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/frown.gif Glad we live in Arizona now.

[Idnew]

Florida no beer sales from 12am till 7am. No liquor sales period on Sunday, but you can buy beer and wine except in dry counties, which there are about 6 left in Florida. The bars around here stay open till 1 or 2 depending on where you go. Gainesville, Fl just changed their law so they can stay open until 4 I think.

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i live in ireland just outside dublin the legal drinkin age is 18 which isnt too bad but most pubs and clubs require you to be 21 which is really weird!!!

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Nope! In CA our liquor stores are open 24 hours all the time, every day! Get any liquor you want at anytime, just don't get caught swerving all over the road or you can get a DUI!(driving under Influence) http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Law in CO and OK- can't buy anything except 3.2 beer (watered down version of regular beer) in supermarkets. You would have to purchase in a liquor store. In CO, no alcohol at all can be bought on Sundays. In AZ, no beer can be sold after 1am and before 6am, except on Sundays--you have to wait till 10am. I guess they want to wait till AFTER church is over to start getting drunk.

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[amr]

This isn't exactly a law, but a few years ago the state of Wisconsin raised the price of a liquor new licence to around US$10,000! To renew an exiting liquor licence still only cost about US$500.

The idea was to give incentive to keep existing bars open and discourage new ones from popping up. I'm not sure about keeping old ones open, but I do know that new bars aren't opening like they used to.

I make my own beer. (YES, perfectly legal ever since the adoption of the 21rst Amendment). The funny thing is... the states say you can't drink until you're 21. HOWEVER...the wording in the regulations pertaining to the 21rst amendment STILL state that "a person can brew up to 100 gallons of beer/year per person 18 or older, or up to 200 gallons/year per household."! Go figure! Yeah, I'm going to mix up a batch of beer when I'm 18, and not touch it for 3 years unless I call mommy and daddy over!...Right!

[weldordave]

Washington state- No beer sold between 2AM & 6AM. Liquor is sold in STATE stores(state has to get it's cut). Wine can be sold in grocery stores. We have a state liquor control board that is almost "gestapo like" in it's practices. Seattle-Everette-Tacoma aka "Pugetropolis" is a 24 hour economy. Shift workers abound, but you better get your after work six pack on time! I make my own beer also, along with hard spirits(liquor) and ethynol fuel in a legal still. A person of any age can buy all the ingrediants to make any of the above. I think my daughter will be saught after for her skills in this area when she hits high school!

I live in Massachusetts. Massachusetts has the dumbest laws ever. The liqour laws are even dumber. No liqour on sundays, but if you live within 10 miles of New Hampshire, you can buy it. All bars close at 2 am. Clerks at the food store cant ring in beer, they have to get a supervisor to do so. That goes for cigaretts also. If you have an expired license, most likely they wont sell to you.

in Maine, if you are from out of state, they wont sell it to you.

[CBranski]

Weldordave: I live in a large city where you can't get carryouts past 9PM, and this really affects 2nd and 3rd shift workers, as there's plenty of them here. Not surprisingly, the state's Tavern League supports the law, as bars are allowed to stay open much longer.

Rochelle: The reason many out-of -staters can't get booze in Maine is probably the same reason a lot of folks from out-of-state can't get it here in Wisconsin: the clerks don't know what out of state ID's look like-they have that policy to protect their liquor licenses.

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When I lived in Oklahoma, 3.2 beer was sold at 7 Eleven and supermarkets. It was sold cold. Stronger beer, such as Molson, was sold at a liquor store. It could not be sold cold, because then it would be ready to drink. Imagine that. But isn't the bottle of Jack Daniels ready to drink? Anyway, that is what the liquor store owner told me. He said that the state did not think of 3.2 beer as an intoxicating beverage. Tell that to the cop when you get pulled over. The liquor store owner could not sell anything that did not contain alcohol. Lollipops on the counter could not be sold. He gave them away. Some companies put minute amounts of alcohol in their mixers so they could sell them in the liquor store. Some owners had two stores right next to each other. One for alcohol, and one for everything else.
Then I moved to Maryland, where the local liquor store had a drive through window. Now that's more like it.

Originally posted by CBranski:
Some dumb Wisconsin booze laws:
At supermarket checkouts, the clerk cannot run beer across the scanner if he/she is under the age of 18-another checker has to leave their post to perform this task. Naturally, this can be irritating when the lines are long. They are allowed however to put the booze in a bag or put it back in your cart.



we have this in the UK too. except someone just has to *watch* under-18s out the booze through...

[Sephirstein]

I think it's unfair regulation of the economy to only allow bars and restaurants to sell alcohol. People should be able to drink at home and buy it wherever they want.

[Phreakmeister]

Thank god over here both is legal. And thank god noone here sticks to the age limit.
Officially, only 16-and-olders are allowed to drink alcohol. But the only people who stick to that, are in the government.
My brother is 14, doesn't stick to it, I'm 18, started when I was around 12, a lot of friends of mine started before they were 16. And noone can do a-ny-thing about it http://www.dumblaws.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[TAHUTI]

Growing up in Germany, my dad used to send me to the neighborhood grocery store all the time to buy beer (as well as cigarettes) for him when I was a mere babe. (We're talking under ten years of age!). Back in the sixties/early seventies, this was perfectly legal. This may have changed since; I don't know. Having been in this country for twenty years, I don't know if the laws in Germany are still this lax today.

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i live in indiana and alcohol sales are prohibited on sundays so we drive 20 mins. to illinois on sundays and are bars close at 4 or 5 am can't drink that match lol

[Phreakmeister]

My brother is 14, and even he doesn't have trouble getting beer... That's how legal it is... (I must say that his size (6'2") helps, but still...)

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[jettmotto]

lol i just got charged with this so i know now lmmfao......the legal limit for driving is .08 BAC but if your under that like i was then you get this "operating a motor vehical with under.08 but more than .03" under .03 is "information of operating motor vehical with a BAC" whats with that mess

[paulgro]

Each state has a different limit and how they deal with it...

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Don't forget the British licensing laws - restricted opening hours and weakened beer so we aren't hung over and make it in on time to the munitions factories to help the war effort :-/

[little_army_babe]

In Ohio you can't get a fish drunk! How stupid is that?

[jettmotto]

Originally posted by little_army_babe
In Ohio you can't get a fish drunk! How stupid is that?

if i couldn't fish drunk i probly wouldn't fish lol

Originally posted by featherduster
Don't forget the British licensing laws - restricted opening hours and weakened beer so we aren't hung over and make it in on time to the munitions factories to help the war effort :-/


lol, in Scotland it is a little bit better. Some pubs stay open until 3-4am but on average they close at 1am and all clubs stay open until 2-3 and now they are changing it so we can get alcohol on sunday mornings as well :) well we are a nation of alkies :0

I think we have the same as England for off-licences where you can only get booze before 10pm :( which sucks when youre drunk and you need some more but you dont want to go to a bar

We have the thing about people in shops not being able to sell alcohol without supervision here too, I remember it from when I worked in a shop and I had to ring the bell to get the manager to watch me put it through the scanner :) bit stupid really as its not like it's the person behind the counter who is going to drink it

unfortunately where I live I read they are about to ban drinking in the streets :( so Ill have to plan my friday nights a little better from now on :0

[kontulib]

In Finland:

Drinks what contains alcohol over 4.7% may be sold only in "Alko" (national alcohol monopoly corporation). Alko is closed after 8 pm, saturdays after 6 pm. and sundays closed.

Drinks what contains alcohol 1.2% - 4.7% may be sold in stores, supermarkets etc. only 7 am - 9 pm.

You can´t buy drinks contains over 22% alcohol from Alko if you are under 20 years old but you have right to buy such kind of alcohol drinks from bar if you are 18.

Alcohol drinks what contains under 1.2% alcohol can buy everybody (no age limits)

[aclu14]

http://rockbottomdlux.freewebspace.com/smilies/MouthDrop.gif @ the stupidity

[~wildangel~]

Originally posted by little_army_babe
In Ohio you can't get a fish drunk! How stupid is that?

:lolyou cant get it drunk, but you can eat him:(

[aclu14]

Mmmm....beer fried fish...*licks lips*

Langlade county, northern wisconsin, bans all liquor sales in supermarkets after 9 pm, however, you can head to your local bar/tavern, and buy whatever up until that said business closes.

[RayH]

Yes. They allow it to be sold.

[bi-blonde]

I guess the states that don't sell after early evening hours are promoting drunk driving........Heck, "we'd rather ya get drunk and kill someone on the road than be safe and inebriate at home"

In sweden you can only buy alcohol in government owned stores called "systembolaget" with enormous taxes.

It might be wrong but I heard Norway is even worse, there you must order your alcolhol one day in advance before you get it.

[paulgro]

Some States in the US have State stores but most don't. There are also some counties in states that you can't buy any alcohol products...

[weldordave]

Repressive Socialists, Paulgro. That's what they are! Or bible thumpers!

[RayH]

~wildangel~ Actually, in CA it is illegal to sell alcohol between 2 and 6 am. The store can be opened. But such can't be sold.

Originally posted by TAHUTI
Growing up in Germany, my dad used to send me to the neighborhood grocery store all the time to buy beer (as well as cigarettes) for him when I was a mere babe. (We're talking under ten years of age!). Back in the sixties/early seventies, this was perfectly legal. This may have changed since; I don't know. Having been in this country for twenty years, I don't know if the laws in Germany are still this lax today.

It's been changed years ago: selling tobacco to under 16's and alcohol to under 16's (beer) resp. 18's (wine, strong liquor) is illegal in shops as well as in pubs in Germany. Just now, the gouvernment is thinking about banning cigarette-vending-machines not operated by credit-card only.

But concerning beer: Germany still has a 500-year old law, saying that beer mustn't contain anything but hops, barley and water! No chemicals, no other additives!

[Sjax]

Which makes them (the beer) really, really good.

[Phreakmeister]

Exactly. German and Belgian beers are the only true beers in the world.

What you get when you throw chemicals in your beer, is Bacardi Breezer-like beer. Beer is beer, not coke.

[Guru]

Finland:

- The stores can't sell beer after 9PM.

- Any alcohol bought from a restaurant or pub has to be consumed on the premises. Terraces are fenced to clearly mark where you can drink

- Up until a few years ago stores were not allowed to be open on Sundays at all! Even now sunday-openings are restricted for stores over 150m2 (i think) the may-august and december.

- The only place to buy liquore stronger than something like 5,5% is a state-owned store called Alko.

- The legal age from getting booze (stronger than wine) from Alko is 20 years, milder stuff is 18. But in restaurants the only age that counts is 18.

- This is not a dumb law, but I defend the age restrictions of 21 or 24 to some restaurants. The law only say you have to be 18 to drink, but the restaurants are privately owned establishments and have the right to choose their customers. If they put a hefty-enough age-limit, they have an easier time screening out unwanted customers that they otherwise would be sued for for racism or something. Since the only thing they have to worry about is serving alcohol to minors, they can choose not to check the age of people over 18 but under whatever limit they set.
In Stockholm was ( I don't know if it still exists) a restaurant with a minimum age of 45 or something like that

[kontulib]

Quote from Guru...

Finland:

- The stores can't sell beer after 9PM.

Stores can´t even be open after 9 pm. (Not including Gas Stations)

- Any alcohol bought from a restaurant or pub has to be consumed on the premises. Terraces are fenced to clearly mark where you can drink

Well, consuming alcohol in public places is illegal, so they must to mark that drinking area clearly.

- Up until a few years ago stores were not allowed to be open on Sundays at all! Even now sunday-openings are restricted for stores over 150m2 (i think) the may-august and december.

Very stupid. I agree.


- The only place to buy liquore stronger than something like 5,5% is a state-owned store called Alko.

Yep, that monopoly sucks.


- The legal age from getting booze (stronger than wine) from Alko is 20 years, milder stuff is 18. But in restaurants the only age that counts is 18.

I don´t know what´s the idea for that. I think at politics think at when you are in bar, the staff can control your drinking.


- This is not a dumb law, but I defend the age restrictions of 21 or 24 to some restaurants. The law only say you have to be 18 to drink, but the restaurants are privately owned establishments and have the right to choose their customers. If they put a hefty-enough age-limit, they have an easier time screening out unwanted customers that they otherwise would be sued for for racism or something. Since the only thing they have to worry about is serving alcohol to minors, they can choose not to check the age of people over 18 but under whatever limit they set.
In Stockholm was ( I don't know if it still exists) a restaurant with a minimum age of 45 or something like that

It was a dumb rule, when I was under 24. Now I don´t care it anymore :wink

[Guru]

Originally posted by kontulib
Quote from Guru...

Stores can´t even be open after 9 pm. (Not including Gas Stations)

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I'm splitting hairs, but that's not completely true. Some stores actually are open until 10 or 22pm. Not many, but some....

[weldordave]

Originally posted by Phreakmeister
Exactly. German and Belgian beers are the only true beers in the world.

What you get when you throw chemicals in your beer, is Bacardi Breezer-like beer. Beer is beer, not coke.
False! Many American breweries have standards way above the German Purity Laws. Fact. Many NW breweries and wineries are beating the pants off of European strongholds. My home brewery produces beer and wine that makes ANY Euro-brew,well, suck. When you CLAIM that German/Belgian beers are the only "true beers", you are dead wrong. In actuality, American "home brewers" have HIGHER standards than your countries industry. This must be why Euroland does not allow it's citizenry to brew their own. They'd make better than their megabreweries! :clap

[kontulib]

Originally posted by weldordave

False! Many American breweries have standards way above the German Purity Laws. Fact. Many NW breweries and wineries are beating the pants off of European strongholds. My home brewery produces beer and wine that makes ANY Euro-brew,well, suck. When you CLAIM that German/Belgian beers are the only "true beers", you are dead wrong. In actuality, American "home brewers" have HIGHER standards than your countries industry. This must be why Euroland does not allow it's citizenry to brew their own. They'd make better than their megabreweries! :clap

Finnish Karhu and Legenda beers taste good. Lapin Kulta tastes like piss of the reindeer. Budweiser have no taste.
That´s all what I know about beers, and that´s enough :D

[Mary]

Originally posted by kontulib


Finnish Karhu and Legenda beers taste good. Lapin Kulta tastes like piss of the reindeer. Budweiser have no taste.
That´s all what I know about beers, and that´s enough :D
You really don´t know anything about beers. KOFF rules.:clap

[kontulib]

Originally posted by Mary

You really don´t know anything about beers. KOFF rules.:clap

I liked KOFF couple of years ago, but I noticed at Karhu have the best taste.

BTW what taste of the beers have doing with dumb beer laws? :D We are little bit off topic, aren´t we? :rolleyes:

[Mary]

Okey we are off topic, but you and Guru had already told finnish beer laws.
BTW observance of those laws are diffrent for man and woman.

[nacho cheese]

Off Topic
Have anyone heard lately about the case in which the "real Budweiser" from Czech Republic was supposed to sue the USA Budweiser?
Off Topic

[sinecure]

Originally posted by kontulib


Lapin Kulta tastes like piss of the reindeer. ...
That´s all what I know about beers, and that´s enough :D

I just HAVE to ask you this, Kon... How do you know what reindeer piss tastes like?

:lol :lol :p

[Phreakmeister]

Differences between English and American:
English - "I'm terribly sorry sir, we seem to have run out of urine, I'm afraid"
American - "That was the last Budweiser we had"

Dave:
What makes a beer a good beer are not the purity laws (although they are very important in terms of product safety), it is the tradition, it is the "body", it is the drink, it is the taste, it is the character, it is the spirit of the beer. And when it comes to that, nothing beats the Belgian beers (www.bestbelgianbeers.com), such as Hoegaarden, Kriek, Lambiek, Duvel, Leffe, Stella Artois, Corsendonk, Straffe Hendrik, Affligem, Arlevelde, etcetera etcetera.

[weldordave]

Quite obviously you do not know about beer. Lagers, ales, IPA's, Porters, Stouts, Imperial Stouts. Adding in specialty grains or honey. Or when to add honey-- start of boil/end of boil? Yeasts and yeast strains, etc. And hops. Your mentioning of Butwiper clearly defines your playing feild=it's the beer of choice of any high school KID. When you're ready for the real taste of beer try a true American microbrew or stop by my place. I've been brewing for 30 years and although I once thought highly of your beer, the Euro beer has stagnated like the Euro wine. You all (or ya'll) will have to play "catch up" very soon. If you want to take a beer vacation, start in Central California and go North to the Canuck border. You will not be disappointed.

[Phreakmeister]

Originally posted by weldordave
Quite obviously you do not know about beer. Lagers, ales, IPA's, Porters, Stouts, Imperial Stouts. Adding in specialty grains or honey. Or when to add honey-- start of boil/end of boil? Yeasts and yeast strains, etc. And hops.

If you think I don't know anything about beer, you should really get to know me better, because then you would see how ludicrous that statement is.

Your mentioning of Butwiper clearly defines your playing feild=it's the beer of choice of any high school KID. When you're ready for the real taste of beer try a true American microbrew or stop by my place.

Come on, Budweiser is about the only beer I haven't had (not bragging). And I can tell you one thing: Of all the beers I've ever had in my entire life, Belgian beers stand out of the crowd, with head and shoulders. You should really try the monastery brews to value Belgian beers. Dammit man, I just got back from Belgium. What do you think I have been doing there? Watching the flowers grow?
Have you ever tried Duvel? Kriek Bellevue? Dobbelken? Stella Artois? Hoegaarden? Palm? Maes? Affligem? Dikkenek? Dirk Martens? Het Lam Gods? Delhaize? Gueuze? Pauwel? La Bleu Vinte? De Halve Maen? Straffe Hendrik? Deugniet? Grimbergen? Brugse Tripel? De Koninck? Coq Hardi? Drie Fonteinen? Zulte? Tongerlo? Verboden Vrucht? Petrus? Paulus? Judas? Haecht?

I've been brewing for 30 years and although I once thought highly of your beer, the Euro beer has stagnated like the Euro wine. You all (or ya'll) will have to play "catch up" very soon. If you want to take a beer vacation, start in Central California and go North to the Canuck border. You will not be disappointed.

I can really advise you to go on a beer vacation to medieval breweries in Belgium instead.

[sinecure]

Well, hell.... I know how to settle THIS!

I have an idea!!!

Let's all meet at some mid-point. [Las Vegas immediately comes to mind...:D]

We'll each bring a keg of our ten favorite brews, and a case of our 10 favorite distilled spirits, and we'll have a week-long TASTE TEST!! :clap

Last person who is standing, and can talk gets to choose the winners.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Now... who is gonna be the moderator for this...?

[kontulib]

Originally posted by sinecure
Well, hell.... I know how to settle THIS!

I have an idea!!!

Let's all meet at some mid-point. [Las Vegas immediately comes to mind...:D]

We'll each bring a keg of our ten favorite brews, and a case of our 10 favorite distilled spirits, and we'll have a week-long TASTE TEST!! :clap

Last person who is standing, and can talk gets to choose the winners.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Now... who is gonna be the moderator for this...?

Well. After that week, 1/3 of us are in hospital, 1/3 are in cemetery and 1/3 are going back to home with serious delirium symptoms. Cool! I´m in!!! :D

[weldordave]

Phreak, I make it to Eoroland every so often and yes I do drink many beers. Taste is lacking, even among the Trappist ales. The biggest advantage is that it seems all "bars" there will shove a variety of beers down your gullet till you find one you like. Much cheaper to drink there! In talking to a few brewmeisters I find that they are dead set against change or experimentation- of any sort. Granted, your average beer in Europe is far superior than the average N. American beer. This includes Canada and Mexico. You would find here that the average American homebrewer produces a beer that is equal to or greater than any Euro brew. And, once in awhile, you get a batch that is sooo good and you never figure out how you screwed-up and got it so good! As I'm typing this I'm enjoying a well crafted IPA from Portland, OR in a Paulaner Litre mug. CHEERS!

[CBranski]

American "macro brews" (ie Miller, Budwieser) are at best lacking. Anyone visiting the US who tries any of these (especially Budwieser) is going to be very dissapointed! For good American beer, look no further than the microbrews, especially the following: Sprecher and Lakefront,(both from Milwaukee; I am in fact enjoying a Sprecher Black Bavarian now!) Capitol Brewery from Madison, WI and Goose Island from Chicago. All of these breweries have stuff that is just as good or better than Belgian or German. Nothing can beat a Hacker-Pschorr Oktoberfest, though!

[Dogface]

Originally posted by kontulib


Finnish Karhu and Legenda beers taste good. Lapin Kulta tastes like piss of the reindeer. Budweiser have no taste.
That´s all what I know about beers, and that´s enough :D

Thank you for proving that Europeans are every bit as ignorant and uneducated as are Americans :clap !

Are you really so stupid as to think that Budweiser is the only kind of beer made in the USA?

Maybe I should decide that Lapin Kulta is the only kind of Finnish beer in existence and say that all Finnish beer tastes like reindeer piss.

[Dogface]

In Indiana, it's still illegal to sell packaged alcoholic beverages on Sunday. You can buy alcoholic beverages at restaurants or bars, but they must be consumed on premises. A coalition of religious nutcases and restaurant and bar owners has kept this law on the books. It is also illegal to sell on Christmas and New Years Days:

IC 7.1-3-1-14
Times when sales lawful; athletic or sports events in specified counties or cities; auto racing
Sec. 14. (a) It is lawful for an appropriate permittee, unless otherwise specifically provided in this title, to sell alcoholic beverages each day Monday through Saturday from 7 a.m., prevailing local time, until 3 a.m., prevailing local time, the following day. Sales shall cease wholly on Sunday at 3 a.m., prevailing local time, and not be resumed until the following Monday at 7 a.m., prevailing local time.
(b) It is lawful for the holder of a supplemental retailer's permit which is not specified in subsection (c) to sell the appropriate alcoholic beverages on Sunday from noon, prevailing local time, until 12:30 a.m., prevailing local time, the following day.
(c) It is lawful for the holder of a supplemental retailer's permit to sell the appropriate alcoholic beverages on Sunday from 11:00 a.m., prevailing local time, until 12:30 a.m., prevailing local time, the following day if the holder of the permit meets the following criteria:
(1) the holder of the permit is a hotel; or
(2) the holder of the permit meets the requirements of 905 IAC 1-41-2(a).
(d) Notwithstanding subsections (b) and (c), if December 31 (New Year's Eve) is on a Sunday, it is lawful for the holder of a supplemental retailer's permit to sell the appropriate alcoholic beverages on Sunday, December 31 from the time provided in subsection (b) or (c) until 3 a.m. the following day.
(e) It is lawful for the holder of a permit under this article to sell alcoholic beverages at athletic or sports events held on Sunday upon premises that:
(1) are described in section 25(a) of this chapter;
(2) are a facility used in connection with the operation of a paved track more than two (2) miles in length that is used primarily in the sport of auto racing; or
(3) are being used for a professional or an amateur tournament;


IC 7.1-5-10-1
Times when sales unlawful
Sec. 1. (a) Except as provided in subsection (d), it is unlawful to sell alcoholic beverages at the following times:
(1) At a time other than that made lawful by the provisions of IC 7.1-3-1-14.
(2) On Christmas Day and until 7:00 o'clock in the morning, prevailing local time, the following day.
(3) On primary election day, and general election day, from 3:00 o'clock in the morning, prevailing local time, until the voting polls are closed in the evening on these days.
(4) During a special election under IC 3-10-8-9 (within the precincts where the special election is being conducted), from 3:00 o'clock in the morning until the voting polls are closed in the evening on these days.
(b) During the time when the sale of alcoholic beverages is unlawful, no alcoholic beverages shall be sold, dispensed, given away, or otherwise disposed of on the licensed premises and the licensed premises shall remain closed to the extent that the nature of the business carried on the premises, as at a hotel or restaurant, permits.
(c) It is unlawful to sell alcoholic beverages on New Years Day for off-premises consumption.


Likewise, all Eastern Orthodox Priests in Indiana are criminals:

IC 7.1-5-7-15
Aiding unlawful possession
Sec. 15. A person twenty-one (21) years of age or older who knowingly or intentionally encourages, aids, or induces a minor to unlawfully possess an alcoholic beverage commits a Class C infraction.

No provision is made in the law for the exercise of religion in this matter.


It is illegal in Indiana to permit children into a place of business where alcohol is served unless that place has it properly concealed:

IC 7.1-5-7-9
Parent taking child into tavern prohibited
Sec. 9. (a) It is a Class C infraction for a parent, guardian, trustee, or other person having custody of a child under eighteen (18) years of age to take that child into a tavern, bar, or other public place where alcoholic beverages are sold, bartered, exchanged, given away, provided, or furnished.
(b) It is a Class C infraction for a permittee to permit the parent, guardian, trustee, or other person having custody of the child under eighteen (18) years of age to be in or around the prohibited place with the child.

IC 7.1-5-7-11
Exception for certain public places
Sec. 11. (a) The provisions of sections 9 and 10 of this chapter shall not apply if the public place involved is one (1) of the following:
(1) Civic center.
(2) Convention center.
(3) Sports arena.
(4) Bowling center.
(5) Bona fide club.
(6) Drug store.
(7) Grocery store.
(8) Boat.
(9) Dining car.


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(10) Pullman car.
(11) Club car.
(12) Passenger airplane.
(13) Horse racetrack facility holding a recognized meeting permit under IC 4-31-5.
(14) Satellite facility (as defined in IC 4-31-2-20.5).
(15) Catering hall under IC 7.1-3-20-24 that is not open to the public.
(16) That part of a hotel or restaurant which is separate from a room in which is located a bar over which alcoholic beverages are sold or dispensed by the drink.
(17) Entertainment complex.
(18) Indoor golf facility.
(19) A recreational facility such as a golf course, bowling center, or similar facility to which IC 7.1-3-16.5-2(c) applies.
(b) For the purpose of this subsection, "food" means meals prepared on the licensed premises. It is lawful for a minor to be on licensed premises in a room in which is located a bar over which alcoholic beverages are sold or dispensed by the drink if all the following conditions are met:
(1) The minor is eighteen (18) years of age or older.
(2) The minor is in the company of a parent, guardian, or family member who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older.
(3) The purpose for being on the licensed premises is the consumption of food and not the consumption of alcoholic beverages.



Internet beer purchases can also be a problem:
IC 7.1-5-8-9
Purchase of beer from un-bonded brewery prohibited
Sec. 9. Purchase of Beer from Un-Bonded Brewery Prohibited. It is unlawful for a permittee to purchase, receive, or import beer from a brewer or other person located outside this state unless the bond and agreement required by the provisions of IC 1971, 7.1-3-2, have been accepted by the commission and are currently effective.



Not a dumb law, but one has to wonder why it was felt necessary to pass:

IC 7.1-5-8-3
Wood alcohol as beverage prohibited
Sec. 3. Wood Alcohol As Beverage Prohibited. It is a Class A misdemeanor for a person knowingly to give, furnish, barter, keep for sale, or deliver a preparation, liquid, fluid, or drink, or other substance likely or intended to be used as a beverage, that contains wood alcohol.

[bussy]

I've heard a lot about stupid beer laws from around the world but Ithink this is about as stupid as it gets:in Finland you can't buy carry'aways from a restaurant BUT you can carry away your beer from any gas station or kiosk between 9AM to9PM any day of the week.Now why?Don't ask me.

Do you by any chance have the code you mentioned about the beer law in PA?

[dubstyler]

admittedly i havent read the whole thread, but this is the craic for the european countries i am familier with:

England
Pubs/bars must stop serving at 11 (sundays 10:30pm)
pubs can only serve alcohol from 11am. However, i live in a shift-working town and 1 pub gets to open at 5:30 am for shift workers. if you look like a shift worker, they serve you!
except for fun pubs (big multi bar pubs, almost clubs)which can serve till 12, or 1am at weekends, providing they sell snack food.
you can go in a pub at 14.
you can only drink in a pub at 18, unless youre eating a sit-down meal with over 18 guardians, in which case you can be 16.
Supermarkets stop serving at 5 to 11 to stop arguments
you can sell beer wholesale at anytime of day (in leeds there is a service you can ring up at any time, but you must order 48 cans)
on new years eve a pub can open for 24 hrs, providing no-one objects prior to this.
Clubs let in 18 yr olds +, but some insist you must be 21 or even 25.
Most towns and cities wont let you drink on the street.However some do, and some positively encourage it to promote tourism (Edinborough, glastonbury) Many pubs have out door areas with a white line on the floor.
You cannot sell alcohol until you are 18, but someone can claim the legal responsibility if they watch you (even the bloke behind you in the checkout queue!)making it alright.

Germany: drinking age 16 or 18 depending where you are and what time it is (some places boot under 18 yr olds out at midnight!) Also purity laws exist.

France: 14, but no-one bats an eyelid to anyone of any age being anywhere with wine. beer is sold in some vending machines in the street

Spain: 14 for alcohol. however 16 for coffee in a bar (i remember being id'd age 14 in a spanish bar getting a coffee and a beer, then being amazed at being handed a beer and no coffee!)

Also worth noting are british customs laws, which in the first instance the EU has ever done anything of merit to the uk citizen we can now bring a reasonable amount of booze back from another EU country. i cant remember the booze limits but the cigs one has gone up from like 400 cigs to 3200, and they have to prove its not for you now.

Does anyone have the info fo sweden? im interested as the drug laws are tough their, you can be imprisioned for even having cannabis in your blood stream.

[dubstyler]

and off topic but still worth mentioning....Originally posted by Phreakmeister



Have you ever tried Duvel? Kriek Bellevue? Dobbelken? Stella Artois? Hoegaarden? Palm? Maes? Affligem? Dikkenek? Dirk Martens? Het Lam Gods? Delhaize? Gueuze? Pauwel? La Bleu Vinte? De Halve Maen? Straffe Hendrik? Deugniet? Grimbergen? Brugse Tripel? De Koninck? Coq Hardi? Drie Fonteinen? Zulte? Tongerlo? Verboden Vrucht? Petrus? Paulus? Judas? Haecht?
.

I havent drank all these but i am a massive fan of weissbier, especially hoegaarden, leffe and konig ludwig.Many of these you mention i havent heard of but i will try and find them.If youre going to try the same please note that many are strong and youre state/country may not allow them.Stella has a nickname in England of "Wifebeater" as it seems to contain a chemical that stirs violent feelings, especially outside a pub at 11:20 pm.
We have a new breed of pubs opening in britain as a revolt to the lager fuelled chain pubs that have popped up everywhere, which will ONLY sell real ale (something we only seem to have in britain, so most of you wouldnt understand) and for lager they usually have weissbier. they also refuse gaming machines and pool tables, as well as recorded music.)

For the record you can brew anything in the uk in youre own home, even from marijuana (provided you take out the thc active ingeredients) so long as you dont sell it. I have tasted a few rather crazy vodkas....

[RaidersFanIam93]

Here is a dumb alcohol law in the United States:

MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE TO DRINK!

Isn't that about stupid?

[Ice_Cold]

In sweden. where I live.. no alcohol is to be purchased
before you turn 20 except in bars or restaurants where it's 18 (it's vice versa in so many other countries)!!. And there's more...
all alcoholic brews that have an alcohol percent over a 2,8% are only to be sold by the state of sweden (anyone selling any kind of alcohol might get pursecuted and might expect a prison sentence) which has a chain of state-owned liqour stores, that are only open on weekdays .. Damn Socialist monopoly.. And to buy 2,8 % alcoholic beer you must be over 18.. haha..

and what about the price... If a bottle of wine cost 1€ (euro) in germany It might cost even 4 € euros in sweden! the taxes are sky-high! and In good pubs or bars a pint of good beer can cost up to 10 euros! and a mediocre beer is always around 6 euros!

it really sucks.

[El Más Grande]

Welcome Ice, nice to see another Scandinavian around here.
I don't know where in Sweden you are, but anyway you can be thankful that Denmark is pretty close, and that we just lowered taxes on liquor, which is still sold to anyone who is 15 and above (18 to get served though) :clap

[Ice_Cold]

I'm thankfull enough to live in Lund, Skåne (you know it..)! Damn pretty close to Denmark. so if eggs comes from chickens, in Skåne beer comes from Denmark!

yeah I know you've lowered your taxes.. That a country like Denmark with allready reasonable alcohol-prices lowers their taxes makes the swedish policy look even more totaly stupid!

Great work, Danes!

[civiltech]

In the province of Ontario, we are said to have some of the most strictest liquor laws in North America.

1) Bars cannot advertise there liquor prices outside the premises. You must go into the bar. That means no billboards, outside signs, or even calling the bar to ask...they can't tell you over the phone. (Don't ask me how I know about over the phone...school days!)

2) Alc./volume must be stamped on beer, and all alcoholic containers. Even "near beer" has this.

3) Our distribution of alchol is run by a Crown corporation, meaning the government runs it. We have the LCBO (which is the Liquor Control Board of Ontario) and is the only store you can buy liquor in. And the Beer Store...which are regulated stores across Ontario to buy beer from producers. There are micro breweries around, and they do obtain licenses to sell beer as well.

4) you must be 19 to buy alcohol. But you can be employed to serve alcohol in a bar at 18.

5) In Thunder Bay, I had a classmate who was fined for walking drunk in public. The police insisted he should have taken a cab. If he had rode a bike, he would have been in even more trouble...go figure

6) You cannot show the consumption of draft beer on a tv commercial. Only people holding it, enjoying looking at it....go figure.

[Sjax]

Welcome on board, Ice-cold. Nice with another scandinavian who for once isn't a Fin:wink

Yeah, drunken Swedes. It's a classic over here. :) :wink

actually in the UK its only 14 to drink wine or cider with a meal

[Enforcer]

maybe its been said but(phreak?)

Netherlands

16 for beer and other light-alcoholic drinks upto 6% or so(I'm sure Phreak will be here correcting me anytime soon)
after that 18

I believe in the past years theamount of blood in your alcohol allowed has been lowered quite a bit.

[Mr_Taco]

Penn State, people. You can only get one beer case at time, unless at an official "beer distribitor" And liquor stores are owned by the government

[MetalRipper666]

You gotta love how schools make all sorts of policies on trying to keep kids from using alchohol and they think they're making a difference....yeahhhhhhhhh riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. :wave

[senor boogie w.]

In Tennessee, a liquor store can only sell liquor and wine, no mixers, beer, cokes or anything else. They have to be closed on Sunday. Cannot buy liquor or wine in a grocery store. Cannot buy beer between the hours of 3 AM and 7 AM, and on Sunday mornings before noon. Bars have to stop selling beer at 3 AM.

When I went to college in Mississippi in the 1980s, the beer drinking age was 18 and the liquor drinking age was 21. Naturally, I was 18 when all the states went to 21.

Nevada and California are great, 24 hours a day, and you can buy all alcohol in one place.

Senor